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DLC with Tiamat and Lolth in BG 2 EE

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  • ShapiroKeatsDarkMageShapiroKeatsDarkMage Member Posts: 2,428
    I think Demogorgon suffices.
  • Bastion72Bastion72 Member Posts: 60
    edited July 2012
    @geselle I know they said they wont change existing content but i hope that most people will prefer that Viconia lives. Don't ya think so :) ?
  • Bastion72Bastion72 Member Posts: 60
    edited July 2012
    @TrentOster Hi Trent,can you plz tell me: can you change just a little of the plot (i think it will not affect lore) by making Viconia live in the romanceble ending and add some kind of Tiamat DLC (if you can and if people want it ofcourse) :)
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  • NWN_babaYagaNWN_babaYaga Member Posts: 732
    Unfortunately geselle is right about the existing content but the strict policy of WotC doesnt apply to a custom adventure a modder can do. So what we need is a very clever and interesting story + a dedicated Mod team;)
  • Bastion72Bastion72 Member Posts: 60
    edited July 2012
    @NWN_babaYaga If Wotc line is followed,then Viconia goes with Drizzt in the end and Jaheira dies by Abazigal's hand,no? (not 100% sure tho). Additonal DLC with new characters,changes the whole story too,no? I still dnt think there'll be a problem if 2 new sentences are added in Viconia's ending...
    But if the devs refuse,then i ll have to search for a mod or become a modder myself like you said ;)
  • kamuizinkamuizin Member Posts: 3,704
    @Bastion72 all direct act a god take in the mortal realms have a risk of make problematic enemies.

    Assuming that Viconia's death was promoted by Lolth:

    If Charname is more powerful than her, he just need to ressurect her, in fact Lolth would not take action against Viconia if charname was really stronger than Lolth.

    But that's not what happens, charname probally is probally a weak god atm. Besides, to a god death is not something final as Viconia would become a suplicant on the planes, and with a little influence charname could pull her soul to his realm and maybe (he's a god after all) give her the lost memories that all suplicants suffer. That's what i think at least.

    Death is not a evil thing, in fact death is directly linked to nature, cycle of life, renew. Death is mortality, well used can make a good more powerful than all the others, but also more vulnerable. The god of murder and death has more tendencies to be neutral than evil in my view.

    And to end, charname don't avoid Viconia death cos it's against his portfolio isn't a good justify, gods in D&D are conscious beings, they're not slaves of the portfolio but their existence are based on them. It's like breath, you can stop your breath for a time, but you can't chose stop breathing forever, and when you can't breath for a large amount of time you die. Portfolios in my conception are the air the gods breath.
  • Bastion72Bastion72 Member Posts: 60
    edited July 2012
    @kamuizin Actually that ressurection idea sounds rly good to me. I m not against(or atleast not much) the whole god portfolio idea.
    I m just sayin that it will be good if they change Viconia's fate. When i saw her ending in 2002 i felt the same depression i felt with the old ME3 ending.Luckily bioware changed it. It will be good if beamdog make something like that ya know ;)
  • mch202mch202 Member Posts: 1,455
    @TrentOster Trent,i see you are a team member of BGEE,can you plz tell me: can anything of what i said happen in BG2EE (if people want it of course)? :)
    @Bastion72 - a little correction, Trent isnt just a team member, he is The Head Of The Serpent ;)

  • Bastion72Bastion72 Member Posts: 60
    @mch202 oh.... I should edit my upper comment ;d
  • ShinShin Member Posts: 2,344
    Including Tiamat and Lolth seems like good ideas in themselves. But to include them just to set up big fights and kill them off sounds retarded and not at all like it would fit in a BG game. I'd rather have the chance to do some roleplaying, talk to them and get to do questline work concerning them.

    As for Viconia's ending, there is already a mod available that gives her a brighter romance ending. Also, since it's just text it's also a simple matter to rewrite it yourself to whatever you please.
  • Bastion72Bastion72 Member Posts: 60
    @Shin Tiamat does not seem impossible but Trent already said that most likely they won't make a plot to kill Lolth (coz wotc are very strict in the storyline they've written).

    As for Viconia,i know about the mod but i think it will be better if that's an official ending. Using modes doesnt feel kinda right to me.It ruins the deep feeling of the game ( that's only my opinion)
  • kamuizinkamuizin Member Posts: 3,704
    I see no problem with mods.

    A mod is a DLC that someone that love the game made in his vision of things. A oficial patch/DLC is also a mod that someone made cos a company paid him to do so (whatever he likes or not the game).
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