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  • iam1iam1 Member Posts: 43
    edited February 2013
    Erg said:

    iam1 said:

    definitely would appeal to the more casual players.

    Casual players should be playing Angry Birds not Baldur's Gate.
    Really? because i think everyone should be playing Baldur's Gate. Not Angry Birds.
    Erinne said:


    Indeed. If you've played through Baldur's Gate 30+ times, you
    a) have lost any right to call yourself a casual player
    and
    b) really, really need to take a break

    a) nu uh, i casually play it through time and time again and get my own type of enjoyment from it
    b) nu uh, breaks are for exhausted people and the fun is not yet exhausted.
    Archaos said:

    @iam1
    Casual players play Dragon Age 2 and Skyrim. I will not go as far as to call people that play "Angry Birds" and "Farmville" gamers.

    Maybe an option to skip cutscenes and dreams *rolls eyes* would be reasonable. But really and I'm being an elitist here probably, if you are a casual player and you want to skip the story, you shouldn't be playing Baldur's Gate. You should be playing Diablo.

    Reasonable? Of course it's reasonable to give an option to cut out some of the "forced" story once you've seen it at least once. Pretty much the same things happen each time, regardless of the choices made, and to my knowledge nothing that happens effects the game outside the sequence. (there are some dialogue choices in some of the dreams, but they have no impact outside of the dreams, just different particle effects)

    For example, when you leave the dungeon thingy at the start, the same thing happens each time. There is no interactivity, and they always take imoen and irenicus.


    How could adding the option to skip unnessecary and lengthy scenes which serve no purpose other than to tell the same story impact a player?

    Player creates new half elf fighter, skips the start thing, misses the shadow thief getting horrored, irenicus blabbing about power and can start to explore the game, this is time saved for the playthrough already, beasts his way through the dungeon and leaves. Skips imoens rather stupid use of magic missile (time saved & you think she'd learn) only for the player to find out at the circus that he wants to be a half-orc.

    Player creates a half-orc (and so on)

    Imho it would just be a timesaver for those who play the game through time and time again, and there would always be the option to watch the scenes through again when they freshened up (lol as if)

    What negative impact could it possibly have?

    I've played skyrim, i've played fo, i've played lots of games and i keep coming back to BG. Because it's one of a kind. I know why i keep coming back to this game, i know what i love about it and i know what makes it unique.

    GIVING THE OPTION of skipping one of the more annoying features after tons of playthroughs only increases it's long-term playability.
  • DeeDee Member Posts: 10,447
    I can almost guarantee that this isn't going to be done. It would require rather a lot of work engine-side to yield something that would benefit only a minute number of players. There are mods out there that make the cut scenes shorter, but this isn't an FMV that we can just make skippable; it's a scripted engine-operated event.
  • iam1iam1 Member Posts: 43
    Aosaw said:

    I can almost guarantee that this isn't going to be done. It would require rather a lot of work engine-side to yield something that would benefit only a minute number of players. There are mods out there that make the cut scenes shorter, but this isn't an FMV that we can just make skippable; it's a scripted engine-operated event.

    A days work to save more than a day of peoples time... tell me you wouldn't personally skip the scenes if you were at the point of being able to recount every line from memory...
  • DeeDee Member Posts: 10,447
    I wouldn't.

    I like those lines, personally. And if I felt strongly enough about them to want them gone, I'd find a mod that did it for me. But I'd no sooner skip these scenes in BG2 than I would skip the trash compactor scene from Star Wars: A New Hope.
  • iam1iam1 Member Posts: 43
    Aosaw said:

    I wouldn't.

    I like those lines, personally. And if I felt strongly enough about them to want them gone, I'd find a mod that did it for me. But I'd no sooner skip these scenes in BG2 than I would skip the trash compactor scene from Star Wars: A New Hope.

    Must I be interrupted at every turn? Enough of this!
  • ErgErg Member Posts: 1,756
    Aosaw said:

    I wouldn't.

    Me neither.
  • FrecheFreche Member Posts: 473
    There is a component in BG2 Tweaks that shortens cutscenes and dreams for BG2 iirc.
  • ArchaosArchaos Member Posts: 1,421
    edited February 2013
    @iam1
    Yeah, I know what people are saying. I think it's reasonable but I just don't like it. It feels wrong for me. Kinda leaves a bad taste in my mouth, that's all.

    When I'm replaying a game I like, I always leave the dialogue and do everything, talk to everyone etc. I don't skip stuff, unless I'm speedrunning, or something.

    And when I know every line from heart from dialogues that I like, I prefer to repeat them in sync along with the character.

    I mean, if you played the game that many times that you grew sick of the dialogue and you want to skip it, why are you playing the game? It's not forgetful dialogue, either.

    I wouldn't mind if it was implemented, I'm just not a fan of it.
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  • ArchaosArchaos Member Posts: 1,421
    Here's a solution. Make a poll about it: "Skippable Cutscenes/Dreams. Yes or No?"

    If people want it, then it might get implemented. If not, then nothing changes. Simple as that.
  • ArchaosArchaos Member Posts: 1,421
    @Bhaaldog
    I don't think people skip or ignore things they like and love. Shocking.
  • iam1iam1 Member Posts: 43
    Archaos said:

    @Bhaaldog
    I don't think people skip or ignore things they like and love. Shocking.

    i skip my wifey when she's angry...
  • mlnevesemlnevese Member, Moderator Posts: 10,214
    Bhaaldog said:

    mlnevese said:

    I've met some people in this forum that can repeat every single line from every single dream from memory... You can bet they'd love a way to skip the dreams.

    *cough* No
    Just tried to be democratic. I wouldn't skip the scenes, but I wouldn't mind if the option was there :)
  • ZeckulZeckul Member Posts: 1,036
    edited February 2013
    Since dreams are mostly dialogue, they're already mostly skippable - just press enter repeatedly. You can't evade other scripted events like characters moving and casting spells, but that's a rather minor annoyance. I suppose a skip button could be nice, but there are many much more pressing concerns about the UI and gameplay, concerns that affect the entire experience rather than a few minutes scattered throughout the game.
  • bill_zagoudisbill_zagoudis Member Posts: 207
    edited February 2013
    come on...that's a so selfish request! seriously if you powergame that hard try a multiplayer game where your performance will actually matter.

    and no bg multiplayer is faceroll,i meant some mmo.
  • ErinneErinne Member Posts: 151

    come on...that's a so selfish request! seriously if you powergame that hard try a multiplayer game where your performance will actually matter.

    and no bg multiplayer is faceroll,i meant some mmo.

    Did you post this in the wrong thread or something? This doesn't really have anything to do with powergaming.

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