He's holding onto creature only weapons which are overkill. His actual weapons are in his inventory which is why you can pickpocket them.
Why do you say "overkill"?
I'd guess it means those "Creature only weapons" are NOT consistent with his named weapons but instead are special developer "cheated" weapons designed specificly to overcome most silly adventuring parties that attempt to kill him?
Probably because the creature weapons were originally designed to compensate for the lack of dual-wield support in the game system. Now that Drizzt has the potential to really use his swords, there's no good reason why he shouldn't just use them.
BTW do people here think that only non-good aligned characters would conceivably pick-pocket Drizzt's Scimitars if trying to role-play alignment?
I suppose you could fall back on either "all drow are evil" or "Drizzt? who's Drizzt? Never heard of him" to rationalize why it might be OK to pickpocket stuff from a hero of the realms going about his hero duties.
Or theres always the good intentioned kleptomaniac rationalization while the paladin looks the other way and other party members ignore the fact that massively magical swords have suddenly turned up in the partys possession but in the end I suspect not pickpocketing his blades is a more likely good alignment choice for roleplaying.
BTW do people here think that only non-good aligned characters would conceivably pick-pocket Drizzt's Scimitars if trying to role-play alignment?
I suppose you could fall back on either "all drow are evil" or "Drizzt? who's Drizzt? Never heard of him" to rationalize why it might be OK to pickpocket stuff from a hero of the realms going about his hero duties.
Or theres always the good intentioned kleptomaniac rationalization while the paladin looks the other way and other party members ignore the fact that massively magical swords have suddenly turned up in the partys possession but in the end I suspect not pickpocketing his blades is a more likely good alignment choice for roleplaying.
@Oxford_Guy - pretty much anything is acceptable for CN - altho purists claim they are not actually just as likely to jump off a bridge as cross one... ;-)
@Oxford_Guy - pretty much anything is acceptable for CN - altho purists claim they are not actually just as likely to jump off a bridge as cross one... ;-)
It's for a Blade, who I originally started as Neutral Good, but realised this alignment is not really consistent with what I want him to do (i.e. steal stuff from pockets and shops, with some help from potions), nor how I perceive him (as a bit of a "rake" with a dislike for authority, apart from his own, but not a fundamentally bad person), so am thinking of starting him over again as CN (I'd only got as far as Beregost with him), even though this does limit him in other ways (e.g. not being able to wield Twinkle). Am also now thinking of running a mixed alignment party too, though no Lawful Good or Chaotic Evil.
I tend to play a lot of CN characters in BGEE having almost exhausted the "goody two shoes" options playing in Vanilla and otherwise modded BG1 runs over the years. CN gives the sort of leeway that makes it quite possible to even change direction decision wise over the course of the game as scenarios change and/or NPCs come and go without feeling "channeled" by your choice of alignment. It's the perfect ME alignment where chaotic behavior is the norm and I like it becuase I dislike playing evil so it allows me to get away with somewhat shady behavior without going full over to the dark side.
I tend to play a lot of CN characters in BGEE having almost exhausted the "goody two shoes" options playing in Vanilla and otherwise modded BG1 runs over the years. CN gives the sort of leeway that makes it quite possible to even change direction decision wise over the course of the game as scenarios change and/or NPCs come and go without feeling "channeled" by your choice of alignment. It's the perfect ME alignment where chaotic behavior is the norm and I like it becuase I dislike playing evil so it allows me to get away with somewhat shady behavior without going full over to the dark side.
That's my thinking too... Current thoughts on party are:
Kagain (LE) -> Dorn (NE) (He can bash chests open until I pick up Coran, and I want the Elven Chain for my Blade...) Sebastien (CN ) Blade - will use the cat familiar to scout until I get Kivan/Coran, main pickpocket/shoplifter Branwen (TN) -> Yeslick (LG)? (although he's lawful good, so maybe not...) Imoen (NG) -> focus on Find Traps and Set Traps *not*dualled (!) Neera (CN) - also possible romance interest for Sebastien Kivan (CG) -> Coran (CG) (scout/archer role, also Coran's a good locksmith, allowing Imoen to focus on Find Traps and Set Traps, would only use Coran in melee for backstabs, otherwise on bow. I much prefer Coran's personality to Kivan's BTW)
The party is lacking a bit in a high Con tank, but I've managed before without one
I tend to play a lot of CN characters in BGEE having almost exhausted the "goody two shoes" options playing in Vanilla and otherwise modded BG1 runs over the years. CN gives the sort of leeway that makes it quite possible to even change direction decision wise over the course of the game as scenarios change and/or NPCs come and go without feeling "channeled" by your choice of alignment. It's the perfect ME alignment where chaotic behavior is the norm and I like it becuase I dislike playing evil so it allows me to get away with somewhat shady behavior without going full over to the dark side.
That's my thinking too... Current thoughts on party are:
Kagain (LE) -> Dorn (NE) (He can bash chests open until I pick up Coran, and I want the Elven Chain for my Blade...) Sebastien (CN ) Blade - will use the cat familiar to scout until I get Kivan/Coran, main pickpocket/shoplifter Branwen (TN) -> Yeslick (LG)? (although he's lawful good, so maybe not...) Imoen (NG) -> focus on Find Traps and Set Traps *not*dualled (!) Neera (CN) - also possible romance interest for Sebastien Kivan (CG) -> Coran (CG) (scout/archer role, also Coran's a good locksmith, allowing Imoen to focus on Find Traps and Set Traps, would only use Coran in melee for backstabs, otherwise on bow. I much prefer Coran's personality to Kivan's BTW)
The party is lacking a bit in a high Con tank, but I've managed before without one
Actually, I might take Viconia instead of Branwen - I'd use neither in melee, so the strength (and Con, to a certain extent) doesn't really matter and she can still wear the Ankheg plate (though only a small shield), though her low Con will mean she'll get tired quickly when travelling. She has one less level 2 spell than Branwen, but better dex (so better AC and more likely to hit with her sling, and if I give her Tazok's gloves would be very effective with this), and 50% magic resistance is very nice. I'd take a Rep hit (and again for Dorn...), though it doesn't take long to build up Rep. Apparently her and Kivan *really* don't get on, which could be amusing, but do they actually fight? I'll only have him until Cloakwood, though. Also I think Coran tries to flirt with her [EDIT: actually I think that's Safana], which could be entertaining, and Sebastien intends to romance her in BG2...
EDIT: Viconia also gets the Elf 90% Charm/Sleep resistance too, for what it's worth
What do you reckon? That would still only mean two (neutral) evil NPCs and Viconia can be redeemed in BG2.
BTW do people here think that only non-good aligned characters would conceivably pick-pocket Drizzt's Scimitars if trying to role-play alignment?
There are lots of tales of young, inexperienced good characters who take a more powerful magic item from someone because they have a personally compelling need for it. A non-lawful good character who has heard legends of the power of Drizzt's scimitars might justify 'borrowing' the scimitar in order to free the slaves from the mines or for some other good purpose, perhaps intending to the return the item(s) later.
It isn't like Drizzt will be helpless in the meantime with his 1d8 +35 damage weapons still in hand.
BTW do people here think that only non-good aligned characters would conceivably pick-pocket Drizzt's Scimitars if trying to role-play alignment?
There are lots of tales of young, inexperienced good characters who take a more powerful magic item from someone because they have a personally compelling need for it. A non-lawful good character who has heard legends of the power of Drizzt's scimitars might justify 'borrowing' the scimitar in order to free the slaves from the mines or for some other good purpose, perhaps intending to the return the item(s) later.
It isn't like Drizzt will be helpless in the meantime with his 1d8 +35 damage weapons still in hand.
It still doesn't feel right to me for a NG character to do this, maybe CG
BTW do people here think that only non-good aligned characters would conceivably pick-pocket Drizzt's Scimitars if trying to role-play alignment?
There are lots of tales of young, inexperienced good characters who take a more powerful magic item from someone because they have a personally compelling need for it. A non-lawful good character who has heard legends of the power of Drizzt's scimitars might justify 'borrowing' the scimitar in order to free the slaves from the mines or for some other good purpose, perhaps intending to the return the item(s) later.
It isn't like Drizzt will be helpless in the meantime with his 1d8 +35 damage weapons still in hand.
It still doesn't feel right to me for a NG character to do this, maybe CG
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Bilbo Baggins hides the ring from his cohorts and steals the most treasured dwarvish legacy from the dragon's treasure, etc. While he warms to adventure and breaks out of his orderly shell, I would hardly consider him chaotic. That isn't a far stretch from borrowing items from Drizzt (particularly stealing the Arkenstone which he knows Thoren Oakenshield desperately wants). This type of dynamic is present in many fantasy scenarios (it is a recurring theme for Harry Potter, for example). The difference for these good characters is that they are ultimately motivated by some greater good and not their own selfish desire. I think a RP rationale can be done around this with Drizzt without too much stretching but each person gets to interpret alignment in BG on their own (given no DM).
I always interpreted Bilbo hiding the ring as the first subtly evil influence it had on him, not something based on his own personality. His deceptiveness only comes out once he's found the ring, after all. "What's in my pocket?", and all that.
Anyway, I'm not sure this is a valid comparison to Drizzt's scimitars. Bilbo stole the Arkenstone because he knew for a fact that he could do more good with it than Thoren, whereas a good PC who thinks he's more capable than the fabled Drizzt Do'Urden is dangerously delusional.
Drizzt is too major a force of good in the world for any action taken against him to not be evil, and he's famous enough that not knowing this is inexcusable. Hell, Drizzt himself is Chaotic Good with a history of stealing when he feels it justified (The Crystal Shard, Gwen from her former master, Cattie-Brie's sword, etc.), but if the roles were reversed and the PC was the one with the powerful weapon, Drizzt wouldn't dream of taking it.
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Probably because the creature weapons were originally designed to compensate for the lack of dual-wield support in the game system. Now that Drizzt has the potential to really use his swords, there's no good reason why he shouldn't just use them.
I suppose you could fall back on either "all drow are evil" or "Drizzt? who's Drizzt? Never heard of him" to rationalize why it might be OK to pickpocket stuff from a hero of the realms going about his hero duties.
Or theres always the good intentioned kleptomaniac rationalization while the paladin looks the other way and other party members ignore the fact that massively magical swords have suddenly turned up in the partys possession but in the end I suspect not pickpocketing his blades is a more likely good alignment choice for roleplaying.
Kagain (LE) -> Dorn (NE) (He can bash chests open until I pick up Coran, and I want the Elven Chain for my Blade...)
Sebastien (CN ) Blade - will use the cat familiar to scout until I get Kivan/Coran, main pickpocket/shoplifter
Branwen (TN) -> Yeslick (LG)? (although he's lawful good, so maybe not...)
Imoen (NG) -> focus on Find Traps and Set Traps *not*dualled (!)
Neera (CN) - also possible romance interest for Sebastien
Kivan (CG) -> Coran (CG) (scout/archer role, also Coran's a good locksmith, allowing Imoen to focus on Find Traps and Set Traps, would only use Coran in melee for backstabs, otherwise on bow. I much prefer Coran's personality to Kivan's BTW)
The party is lacking a bit in a high Con tank, but I've managed before without one
EDIT: Viconia also gets the Elf 90% Charm/Sleep resistance too, for what it's worth
What do you reckon? That would still only mean two (neutral) evil NPCs and Viconia can be redeemed in BG2.
It isn't like Drizzt will be helpless in the meantime with his 1d8 +35 damage weapons still in hand.
Bilbo Baggins hides the ring from his cohorts and steals the most treasured dwarvish legacy from the dragon's treasure, etc. While he warms to adventure and breaks out of his orderly shell, I would hardly consider him chaotic. That isn't a far stretch from borrowing items from Drizzt (particularly stealing the Arkenstone which he knows Thoren Oakenshield desperately wants). This type of dynamic is present in many fantasy scenarios (it is a recurring theme for Harry Potter, for example). The difference for these good characters is that they are ultimately motivated by some greater good and not their own selfish desire. I think a RP rationale can be done around this with Drizzt without too much stretching but each person gets to interpret alignment in BG on their own (given no DM).
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I always interpreted Bilbo hiding the ring as the first subtly evil influence it had on him, not something based on his own personality. His deceptiveness only comes out once he's found the ring, after all. "What's in my pocket?", and all that.
Anyway, I'm not sure this is a valid comparison to Drizzt's scimitars. Bilbo stole the Arkenstone because he knew for a fact that he could do more good with it than Thoren, whereas a good PC who thinks he's more capable than the fabled Drizzt Do'Urden is dangerously delusional.
Drizzt is too major a force of good in the world for any action taken against him to not be evil, and he's famous enough that not knowing this is inexcusable. Hell, Drizzt himself is Chaotic Good with a history of stealing when he feels it justified (The Crystal Shard, Gwen from her former master, Cattie-Brie's sword, etc.), but if the roles were reversed and the PC was the one with the powerful weapon, Drizzt wouldn't dream of taking it.