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I just noticed (after many years) Irenicus makes a sideshow in BG 1

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  • Delvarian said:

    When NPC project gets finished for EE (or play the old game) try talking to her with Xan in your party, pretty cool stuff.

    And I think Jon cared very much for his dead wife. Most of his experiments seem to be in trying to bring her back, thus all the clones and mutants in tanks.

    I thought the clones and mutants were an attempt to make a copy of Ellesime? It's been too long since I've actually played through the dungeon instead of skipping it.

  • Jackkel_DragonJackkel_Dragon Member Posts: 103

    Has it ever been confirmed that they are the same character? I assume it would be (it's unlikely to be a cooincidence).

    If you mean the Jon Icarus/Jon Irenicus connection, I think one of the writers from BG2 mentioned that it was the same character who happened to be renamed during BG2's development. I'd link to evidence, but all my information on the topic is already second-hand...
  • LuigirulesLuigirules Member Posts: 419
    Kaigen said:

    Delvarian said:

    When NPC project gets finished for EE (or play the old game) try talking to her with Xan in your party, pretty cool stuff.

    And I think Jon cared very much for his dead wife. Most of his experiments seem to be in trying to bring her back, thus all the clones and mutants in tanks.

    I thought the clones and mutants were an attempt to make a copy of Ellesime? It's been too long since I've actually played through the dungeon instead of skipping it.

    Yeah, that was definitely Ellesime. If he ever was married, he clearly loved Ellesime more than her.

  • DelvarianDelvarian Member Posts: 1,232
    Yeah my bad, assumed they were the same person
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  • JalilyJalily Member Posts: 4,681
    That's a mod change. The original says "Jon Icarus."
  • SharGuidesMyHandSharGuidesMyHand Member Posts: 2,582
    Another example of BG2's convoluted plotlines screwing up the original's.
  • helmo1977helmo1977 Member Posts: 366
    Jalily said:

    That's a mod change. The original says "Jon Icarus."

    Not a mod, but a patch change. I hadnt any mod in bgee. So, it is official that it was Jon Irenicus.

  • JalilyJalily Member Posts: 4,681
    @helmo1977, @Aedan I was responding to the post above mine, which referred to playing the original via BGT. BG:EE is not the original game.
  • GandalfPortraitGuyGandalfPortraitGuy Member Posts: 206
    I just rediscovered this. :)
  • kamuizinkamuizin Member Posts: 3,704
    I knew it from long ago, but at the actual days i never resist and always ask:

    "Why you're so fat?"
  • PugPugPugPug Member Posts: 560
    Icarus was kind of appropriate.

    It's a well-known Greek myth, but to summarize for those unfamiliar, it's the story of a man who flew on a set of wings fashioned from feathers and wax. He flew too close to the sun, the wax melted, and he fell to his death.

    Fitting of a man who
    tried twice to become a god and got buttspanked both times.
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