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Putting together a party for a first timer, any advice?

I have a rough idea on the party I want to play, but I'm not too sure if it'll work out or if I'll have a hard time or not. Main character will be either a Blade, Shadowdancer, or Swashbuckler. Probably Blade, since I like having many options open. Chaotic Neutral, rest of the party will lean on Good/Neutral except Dorn. The party I'm thinking of:

Imoen (Dual class to Mage)
Minsc (Killing off Dynaheir)
Dorn
Jaheira (Main healing)
Neera (No matter what, she's staying in the party).

Will this party work out? Any other characters I should consider? I don't care for being the most powerful, I just want a balanced party that will work with interesting characters.

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  • CaptRoryCaptRory Member Posts: 1,660
    Dorn might be an issue since he's evil and you'll probably be maxing out your reputation unless you kill random guys. You'll have to manage your reputation. And Minsc is very much a good guy.

    At level four, Imoen can have 100 in Find Traps and Open Locks and can be dualed to a mage and still get her thief levels back. You might want to grab another thief to do thiefy stuff til Imoen gets her skills back.

    So right now you have a mage and a half (Neera and Imoen), three tanks (Jaheira, Minsc, and Dorn) and a divine caster (Jaheira). You could drop Dorn for either Viconia or Branwen. Personally I love having lots of spellcasting in my parties, hehehe. Viconia is evil too though, so reputation issues.

    And if you're gonna play a blade you have magic, fighting, and a little thievery already. So either Dorn or Minsc becomes very redundant.
  • zur312zur312 Member Posts: 1,366
    edited May 2013
    as long as your reputation is below 18 or 19 dorn will stay so yeah it is pretty ok

    i think your party has medium powergaming level not the best not the worst

    the powergaming npc team

    dwarf/orc fighter/cleric tank
    power mage like edwin neera
    coran bow
    kivan bow
    shar-teel bow
    montaron bow

    this is just too easy
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  • GoodSteveGoodSteve Member Posts: 607
    edited May 2013
    For a sixth member I'd suggest a cleric, those being Yeslick, Viconia, or Branwen (in that order). The only problem with Jaheira as your main divine caster is that she does not get access to the 1st level Remove Fear spell because she is a druid, not a cleric. Remove fear is a great spell because it removes morale failure and fear and it lasts a good amount of time. Many enemies in the game use fear and if half your party is running around not doing anything you'll find some of those fights very tough indeed.

    Yeslick is a great contribution to any party, he can fight very well because he is a Fighter/Cleric, has cleric spellcasting (great for buffing himself up to be even more deadly in melee), is a dwarf with a respectable Con so he will have great saves, and his innate dispel magic ability ranks amongst the very best innate abilities in the game. Being a Fighter/Cleric means he will have more attacks per round than any of the other clerics and his proficiency in maces will make him amazing if/when you run across a certain special Mace the EE added to the game. His only downside is that he comes into the game around the halfway point so you'll have to get to him with a 5 person party (not that difficult especially with your chosen lineup) or bring someone along only til you reach him.

    Viconia is also a good cleric. Unlike Yeslick she isn't a fighter multiclass so her combat prowess is fairly limited (only 1 attack per round). That said, you can use items and spells to increase her strength and she can make for a decent frontliner compared to the thieves and bards in the game. Her best qualities are that, like Yeslick, she can give you access to those cleric only divine spells you're currently lacking, she has an innate 50% spell resistance (nothing to sneeze at) and she has 19 dexterity which makes her fairly competant with a sling but more importantly gives her a high AC (especially with strength increasing items to let her equip the heavier armors in the game).

    Branwen is the lesser of the three Clerics. With not so great stats and being a single class cleric she is outshone in the melee department by Yeslcik and in the ranged combat department by Viconia. Her spiritual hammer innate ability is alright, but unless you give her strength items or spells it's really not as usful as some of the other innate abilities. Her greatest points are that she will fill the cleric spellcasting role, you can aquire her very early in the game and being neutral she can fit in well with evil and good parties.

    You can get by without a cleric in the group, Mages can take remove fear as a second level spell but the mage 2nd level spells hold better options than the cleric 1st and you will not have access to them until later on, also you will have fewer slots to prepare this fairly essential spell.

    If you're not really looking for any more divine spellcasting I'd suggest Edwin (he is the best mage in the series, he can cast more spells than any other mage barring Captain Spoiler) he can be recruited early but he does not mesh well with Minsc at all. Kivan or Coran could also be great additions adding some more ranged support which you are currently light on. Kivan is recruitable early has great stats, can melee aswell as fight at range and his favored enemy Ogres stays relevent throughout the entire game. Coran is a true ranged character having the lowest strength of all the "Warrior" classes means he should sit in the back and fire his bow which he does quite well. You don't come across Coran until later in the game but that should be right around the time you dual Imoen so he could be an asset to take over thieving duties until her mage levels surpass her rogue levels.
  • CaptRoryCaptRory Member Posts: 1,660
    I'm misremembering. Imoen can get 100 in Find Traps at 4 but only about 35 in Open Locks, so you'll need the Knock Spell or someone to bash them open absent another thief to pick them open.
  • zur312zur312 Member Posts: 1,366
    dwarf/orc fighter/cleric tank
    power mage like edwin neera
    coran bow
    kivan bow
    shar-teel bow
    montaron bow

    or something like this for powergaming

    bard bow/crossbow or fighter/ilusionist gnome bow
    jaheira darts
    coran bow
    kivan bow
    shar-teel bow
    montaron bow

    6 ranged
  • AnduinAnduin Member Posts: 5,745
    Easy play? Or Powerplay?

    Go with no-nonsense characters for easy play. These can be picked up early so you have a good team straight away.

    You, Don't stress too much, pick something you like!
    Imoen, your thief. Put all in find traps. Potions of master thievery are common and will boost open locks early on if you need it.
    Khalid, simple fighter, with not bad stats.
    Jaheria, your druid who can fill the healer role.
    Ajantis, another fighter (with paladin abilities) Picked up by going north of the Friendly Arm
    Kivan, archer. You have to go to high hedge next door to Beregost.

    A full fledged party that you can take all the way to the end, gathered before going south of Beregost.

    Done and done.

    Magic is lacking, but I assure you it will not put you at a great disadvantage. You can swap members out when you come across better NPCs in the game. I suggest dropping Ajantis for Branwen or Xan for instance when in Nashkell.
  • Bipolar_BearBipolar_Bear Member Posts: 3
    edited May 2013
    Ok, so should I dump Dorn for one of the Clerics? And for Imoen, I was going to dual her @ 6, but that would just mean more time without a thief. I'm starting to think about going through as Blade because of this. Am I best off just switching over to Swashbuckler or Shadowdancer to cover for Imoen? Still a good kit for combat anyways
  • zur312zur312 Member Posts: 1,366
    why would you suggest cleric for party with jaheira?
  • LoremasterLoremaster Member Posts: 212
    edited May 2013
    If you are a roleplayer there is one thing you have to consider, some characters come in pairs. Jaheira and Khalid come as a pair, likwise do Minsc - Dynaheir and Xzar - Montaron. If you kick one out, the other goes as well. There is an easy way around this, though.

    Have one killed, then kick that one out, the other will then stay.
  • Bipolar_BearBipolar_Bear Member Posts: 3

    If you are a roleplayer there is one thing you have to consider, some characters come in pairs. Jaheira and Khalid come as a pair, likwise do Minsc - Dynaheir and Xzar - Montaron. If you kick one out, the other goes as well. There is an easy way around this, though.

    Have one killed, then kick that one out, the other will then stay.
    That's exactly what I plan on doing
  • CaptRoryCaptRory Member Posts: 1,660
    zur312 said:

    why would you suggest cleric for party with jaheira?

    I like packing in a lot of spellcasting. And druids and clerics have different spell lists, although there is a lot of overlap there.

    And I like using Jaheira as a tank so having another divine caster means I have access to those spells even if she's engaged in battle.

    Ok, so should I dump Dorn for one of the Clerics? And for Imoen, I was going to dual her @ 6, but that would just mean more time without a thief. I'm starting to think about going through as Blade because of this. Am I best off just switching over to Swashbuckler or Shadowdancer to cover for Imoen? Still a good kit for combat anyways

    Well, its really easy to overthink things you know? I think you should replace Dorn as a matter of smootihng out playing your first game. Just pick guys that all work well together you know?

    PC Blade
    Imoen (Dual class to Mage)
    Minsc (Killing off Dynaheir)
    Dorn
    Jaheira (Main healing)
    Neera (No matter what, she's staying in the party).

    becomes

    PC Blade (Switch Fighter/Spell Caster/Primary Buffing Mage)
    Minsc (Tank)
    Jaheira (Backup Divine/Backup Tank)
    Imoen (Dual class to Mage after maxing out Find Traps @100 Skill.)
    Neera (Primary Offensive Mage).
    Safana (Second Thief. Replaced with Cleric once Imoen gets her thief skills back and party has Knock Spell. Actually, this would be a good game for you to recruit Yeslick, a Dwarf Fighter/Cleric since he comes later on and most people ignore him 'cause their roster is set at that point.)

    If you get lucky you might randomly find a Scroll of Knock before it appears in the chest normally.
  • KidCarnivalKidCarnival Member Posts: 3,747
    I'd drop Dorn and take Ajantis and later Yeslick instead. Low level cleric spells are very handy, and Jaheira won't have those. She and Minsc can melee without Dorn, so instead of him, you can take another thief along until Imoen gets her levels back. Safana or Coran, perhaps.
  • CaptRoryCaptRory Member Posts: 1,660
    @KidCarnival Coran is awesome, but he comes along a little late, I think, to fill in for Imoen. You can grab Safana super early after all.

    Ajantis is a great choice though. If you didn't want to kill off Dynaheir you could grab Ajantis instead of Minsc. But I tihnk both Ajantis and Jaheira need the Dex Gloves hehehe.
  • KidCarnivalKidCarnival Member Posts: 3,747
    Ajantis will not stay in a party with Dorn tho; Minsc will. It's mainly a question of wether you want Dorn or not.
  • CaptRoryCaptRory Member Posts: 1,660
    Well we were already talking about dropping Dorn 'cause Eeeevil doesn't get along hehe.
  • KidCarnivalKidCarnival Member Posts: 3,747
    I guess the suggestion it leaves is...

    Imoen (dual to mage)
    Safana (backup until Imoen has levels back - replace with Yeslick later)
    Ajantis
    Jaheira
    Neera

    Though, I'm not sure if Coran is really too late. Imoen would need 4 levels as mage; you'd likely only have to do Bandit Camp without thief before you can get Coran for the Cloakwood traps.
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