Just how Powerful is Sarevok in Canon?
DKnight
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Ive beaten this game twice with a 2 man party and its been fun. One of the things Ive always wondered was how would you rate Sarevok regarding fighters in Forgotten Realms. First I'll give his strengths
-Wields a twohanded sword with 1 hand
-is 7 feet tall (as per poster)
-Is very dexterous and hardy for a fighter and is somewhat cunning
-Deathbringer assault
-Most fighters cant go against him alone or they get chewed
My thoughts are that while Sarevok is strong, an extremely good finesse fighter like Drizzt would be able to beat him.
Didn't list this, but Child of Bhaal in BG2 would be able to beat any of these characters in a fight regardless of any skill. The bhaal child is just way too powerful by bg2 and tob they are demigods. Still here's my list
1-Drizzt
2-Artemis
3-Sarevok
4-Obould
5-Wulfgar
That's just my list. I think that drizzt and artemis are tied. Although if artemis had the same training that drizzt had with menzobarranzan, he would be the better fighter than drizzt.
Anyone have any ideas on any of this. I like to discuss this kind of stuff as these games make me think about it.
-Wields a twohanded sword with 1 hand
-is 7 feet tall (as per poster)
-Is very dexterous and hardy for a fighter and is somewhat cunning
-Deathbringer assault
-Most fighters cant go against him alone or they get chewed
My thoughts are that while Sarevok is strong, an extremely good finesse fighter like Drizzt would be able to beat him.
Didn't list this, but Child of Bhaal in BG2 would be able to beat any of these characters in a fight regardless of any skill. The bhaal child is just way too powerful by bg2 and tob they are demigods. Still here's my list
1-Drizzt
2-Artemis
3-Sarevok
4-Obould
5-Wulfgar
That's just my list. I think that drizzt and artemis are tied. Although if artemis had the same training that drizzt had with menzobarranzan, he would be the better fighter than drizzt.
Anyone have any ideas on any of this. I like to discuss this kind of stuff as these games make me think about it.
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What are the true Sarevok stats in BG1 ?
In BG2:ToB we know he is : 18/00 17 18 xx xx xx , but are these stats accurate in BG 1 ?
In the realms, warriors are all crap, because the game was designed for them to cap out early. Personal theory? Fighters are jocks, wizards are mostly nerds... And DnD was more popular among nerds than jocks. Then again, my football team had a DnD group, so dual classed jock/nerds played.
You butcher this loser like a pig EVERY SINGLE GAME of BG1.
Then do it again in BG2.
Kudos to BW for making another villain, like Saren and Loghain, who brings even this mild-mannered player to paroxyms of murderous bloodthirsty hatred.
It makes me respect him more as a villain that way.
I like to think he goes on a journey and gets more powerful at the same time charname does.
or almost anything
even mage can kill him solo just tanking with mirror images
drizzt is way more powerfull because resist + much lower AC
He only killed Gorion in EE because his companion dispelled all of Gorion's protections. And in the final battle Sarevok fought in a trapped room with several potent flunkies.
As an individual, Sarevok is plenty tough. In a group he's really dangerous.
Second Drizzt and Artemis are not equals in battle. The last battle they had in the crystal tower. Artemis lost that one.
Third I think Sarevok would lose against Drizzt in the same way he lost to the pc in Baldur's gate. Drizzt would have a party of his friends and Sarevok would be ether with his crap henchmen or himself. Obould was one tough Orc. Sarevok would get crushed. Sarevok might be able to beat Artemis, but could crush puny Wulfgar.
Thank you for that info. I read all the drizzt books up to The first fight of drizzt with obould. I didn't really understand what was going on in that fight as it was a little complicated. With that info, I would say that Obould is on the top of the list, followed by drizzt, then sarevok, then artemis, then wulfgar and whatever next.
The problem with artemis is that he is imposing and scary to deal with but in reality, drizzt is too good. If artemis and sarevok had any of the training that drizzt had (with 40 years or whatever to boot), they would be monsters. The training between Zaknafein was brutal as Zaknafein easily outclassed Drizzt in the first book.
I don't remember what happened with that dwarf athrogate. I don't remember how powerful he was but I bet that he'd be on bruenor closeness of level. Then again, I think he had storm giant gauntlets so maybe not.
"Let me smack you in the face with this awesome staff while time is stopped. What's that? Want some more? How about some spellstrike action, pure bursts of arcane ectoplasam anyone? What do you mean I have a spellscar? Then enjoy that bukkake party of wild unfiltered weave energy!"
Iirc, both are supposed to be ~16th lvl, but sarevok has unreasonably good roles. And armour that made his basically immune to everything.
Edit, last I checked, shuruppak was about the only epic warrior around. He's not even pure, but nothing is in 3rd.
Drizzt is not meant to be very strong in melee with his middling STR, a half-orc kensai with 20 str will do more melee damage, true. What makes Drizzt special is he is very skilled, smart, (20 dex, good intelligence, master two weapon fighting and possibly grandmaster scimitar, awesome AC and resistances) has drow abilities (infravision, levitate, darkness, magic resistance) that have saved his bacon a lot of times.
Oh he also has powerful friends, an experienced dwarf fighter king that refuses to die, a skilled and battle-hardened human lass raised by dwarves with an amazing and deadly magical bow, a monster of a human barbarian with 19 str and epic magical warhammer, a lazy and always hungry halfling with a mace...err, that guy also has an amulet that dire charms at will so he is still a threat. He can also summon a very intelligent and deadly magical giant cat of prey. Drizzt can stealth and even had some berserking abilities when he was alone in the Underdark for the first books. He is a force to be reckoned with.
5: Wulfgar
4: Bruenor
3: Sarevok and Entreri tied.
2: Obould and Drizzt tied.
1: BG2 Sarevok destroys the others, dual classes to mage and takes over the universe.
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