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  • EudaemoniumEudaemonium Member Posts: 3,199
    Scimitars are a pretty good weapon choice for Jaheira, since you can get a +2 one fairly easily, and a +3 one if you're willing to metagame and kill Drizzt.

    Khalid also works very well as an archer. He's no Coran or Kivan, to be sure, but he's far from inept.
  • TinterTinter Member Posts: 152
    Scimitar is always a good choice for druids; it is the best in BG2. In BG1, though, the dagger of venom is a really strong weapon- with the poison damage output is comparable, and poison is useful for interrupts. Don't invest in sword & shield, the bonsus you get really isn't worthwhile- alternative weapons or dual wielding are the places to go. Jaheria can get enough stars for dual wielding to be worthwhile even just in BG1.

    Khalid is actually a comparable archer to unkitted Kivan, only Coran outshines him over the game in that regard.
  • GodGod Member Posts: 1,150
    Something to keep in mind is that whilst Khalid's name suggests he is immortal, he is not. He is, however, more cowardly than an ordinary squirrel. Also, he is easily eviscerated by diseased gibberlings.

    Though, if you are hell bent on using Khalid and don't want to carry his things around because he cowered and got lethally slapped in the face, it might be better for him to keep away from those who could scare him, haunt him or rip out his lungs. That basically means everyone. Thus, bows are quite a reasonable choice.
  • CaptRoryCaptRory Member Posts: 1,660
    Khalid isn't that bad. He has good Str, Dex, and Con. Not great, but good. Give him a sword and shield and he'd make a fine tank.
  • SCARY_WIZARDSCARY_WIZARD Member Posts: 1,438
    CaptRory said:

    Khalid isn't that bad. He has good Str, Dex, and Con. Not great, but good. Give him a sword and shield and he'd make a fine tank.

    Yep. I always had him sword & board it, while hurling axes.
  • Magnus_GrelichMagnus_Grelich Member Posts: 361
    Khalid can be inconsistent, but kit him up and give him a few levels, and he really does shine. He and Minsc are great in front-line combat, and if you too are a fighter build, then there's little that can stop you if you play smart.
  • lunarlunar Member Posts: 3,460
    I give him ** in bows at lvl 3, because bows are the best in BG, and I think his axe proficiency is kind of a waste, but...he is good at range, has some morale troubles at low levels when his hit points are low. If an enemy hits him for 9-10 damage, he will be near death and most likely suffer a morale break. But he has very good CON score, so with a few level ups, he will have a very large HP pool, so no more morale failures.
  • Aasimar069Aasimar069 Member Posts: 803
    If you're planning to use another weapon than the longsword, give him longsword *** and bow **


    And he rocks ;-)
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  • GoodSteveGoodSteve Member Posts: 607
    I assume you mean BG1 Jaheria (as in before she got her good stats) since you mention Khalid. Neither of them are really all that great to be honest.

    Khalid suffers from a low morale and I have had him have a morale break with 18 Charisma leaders all the time. I also can't recall ever seeing anything mentioned in any official source about party leader charisma affecting the morale of other characters. Khalid's strengths are his naturally high dexterity and his naturally high constitution. His strength score is awful for a frontline fighter but everything about the character promotes just that, being a frontline fighter. He comes with two pips in Longsword, he joins with a longsword and shield equipped and he has a shield in his character portrait. Dumping more points into Longbow is really the better choice if you can't waste either of the strength increasing items on him. Being one of the three single classed fighters (albeit the very worst one) in the game he can get to mastery in longswords, which by the end of the game will put him on par with some of the other melee NPC's but up until then his crappy strength is a major hinderance.

    Jaheira doesn't shine much brighter than Khalid in BG1. Her strength and dexterity scores are too low to give her any bonuses with either melee or ranged weapons and her 14 wisdom is comparably low compared to most divine casters (tiax and quayle aside... what's with the silly low Gnome wisdom anyways?!). Her real strengths are her class combo (fighter/divine caster is a fairly strong class) and her high constitution. However, being half druid the 17 constitution will only give its full bonus to half her hit points. If you want her to excel at either melee or ranged combat you need to give her either dex guantlets or a strength increasing item. How you build her really just depends on which one of these items you can sapre for her. With strength guantlets she can be decent in melee for adding a little extra damage but her low dexterity means that her AC will be lacking and so she'll be taking some punishment. If you give her the dex guantlets she can fire her sling quite competantly but with no strength bonus she'll do minimal damage with it. Either way she wont really outshine anyone.
  • Magnus_GrelichMagnus_Grelich Member Posts: 361
    Also, I f-find it r-r-rather s-satisfying w-when a man with an obv... obvious s-speech imp-pediment s-s-s-slaughters an ent-t-tire v-village of xv-v-varts.
  • LemernisLemernis Member, Moderator Posts: 4,318
    I virtually never have Khalid suffer a morale break. And btw, any character that is hanging by a thread HP-wise can panic and bolt. That could happen to the much praised tank Kagain.
  • Aasimar069Aasimar069 Member Posts: 803
    edited May 2013
    GoodSteve said:

    I assume you mean BG1 Jaheria (as in before she got her good stats) since you mention Khalid. Neither of them are really all that great to be honest.

    Khalid suffers from a low morale and I have had him have a morale break with 18 Charisma leaders all the time. I also can't recall ever seeing anything mentioned in any official source about party leader charisma affecting the morale of other characters. Khalid's strengths are his naturally high dexterity and his naturally high constitution. His strength score is awful for a frontline fighter but everything about the character promotes just that, being a frontline fighter. He comes with two pips in Longsword, he joins with a longsword and shield equipped and he has a shield in his character portrait. Dumping more points into Longbow is really the better choice if you can't waste either of the strength increasing items on him. Being one of the three single classed fighters (albeit the very worst one) in the game he can get to mastery in longswords, which by the end of the game will put him on par with some of the other melee NPC's but up until then his crappy strength is a major hinderance.

    Jaheira doesn't shine much brighter than Khalid in BG1. Her strength and dexterity scores are too low to give her any bonuses with either melee or ranged weapons and her 14 wisdom is comparably low compared to most divine casters (tiax and quayle aside... what's with the silly low Gnome wisdom anyways?!). Her real strengths are her class combo (fighter/divine caster is a fairly strong class) and her high constitution. However, being half druid the 17 constitution will only give its full bonus to half her hit points. If you want her to excel at either melee or ranged combat you need to give her either dex guantlets or a strength increasing item. How you build her really just depends on which one of these items you can sapre for her. With strength guantlets she can be decent in melee for adding a little extra damage but her low dexterity means that her AC will be lacking and so she'll be taking some punishment. If you give her the dex guantlets she can fire her sling quite competantly but with no strength bonus she'll do minimal damage with it. Either way she wont really outshine anyone.


    Remember the gloves of ogre strength and Belt of Big fists ;-)

    He is almost flawless with these.

    Ranged THAC0 and AC can be boosted with book of dex, assuming you don't need it yourself.

    *** longsword
    ** longbow
    * axe (unfortunately)

    is the best solution in this EE Edition.

    in vanilla BG, he can wield Drizzt's Scimitars with equal success (swords proef..
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  • KloroxKlorox Member Posts: 927
    They both make fantastic tanks, with a good cleric to back them up (I think Remove Fear will help Khalid's morale, but I'm not positive).

    Khalid needs to increase his Strength, and I prefer throwing some Gauntlets of Ogre power his way. With a good shield and long sword, he's good to go. I give him that boomerang axe for ranged combat if needed, but he's better up close.

    Jaheira should be built towards using the dagger of venom and a shield. She needs the Belt of Big Fists and the Gauntlets of Dexterity. Now that Ankheg plate combines with Rings ofnProtection, she's even better.

    This pair is very powerful, they are available almost immediately, and are useful right away, and much better when built properly.
  • GandalfPortraitGuyGandalfPortraitGuy Member Posts: 206
    I usually just rid myself of Khalid and Jaheira, for Ajantis, Minsc and Dynaheir, or Kivan.
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