Fighter Cleric Help

Omasyr

I picked Quarterstaff for my Fighter Cleric Half Orc since... I like hitting people with sticks!! But I'm a bit stuck on what to level up? I have Quarterstaff and 2 handed on 2 each and it won't let me make Quarterstaff 3. I'm kinda newbie at this and was wondering which weapon should I take? I was thinking about Sling, but I wanted to know if that was the right way to go? Also my character is running a S19,D12,CON19,I10,W16,CHA12 if that helps

SCARY_WIZARD

Multi-classed Fighters can't go beyond specialization in a weapon, unfortunately. Dual-classed Fighters can do this.
I can suggest slings, or maces...there's an excellent hammer lying around, but there's a mace called The Stupefier that has a 25% chance to stun a target -- with no saving throw allowed, to my knowledge.

Omasyr

Well I'm aware that I can't get so deep into Fighter or Cleric, but just liked the class and wanted to know what should be my secondary weapon.

CaptRory

Mace is a great choice. Warhammer is as well. And you'll definitely want a couple points in Slings.

Omasyr

I was kinda leaning towards sling anyway. Since my guy is tanky but I don't want him to be a full on tank. So kinda use slings to take down distant foes and when they get up close whip out that quarterstaff. Or go warhammer/mace and have some kinda off set on that. Just wanted to get some input on it.

zur312

clerics are very limited
if you really want to have most dps you should go with dual wielding hammers/maces
quarterstaff is pretty neat because of +3 magical you can buy in ulgoths beard

dual wielding statment is based on bg2 experience i don't really know if it is better than 2handed in bg1
it mostly matters because thaco of bg1 characters is lot worse than thaco of bg2 character and there is more better weapons in bg2

so it is probably that bg1 2handed weapons are better for example kensai/barbarian 2handed sword with kai would do pretty crazy damage

Urd1en

Kensai is almost useless in BG:EE.
+2 to hit, +2 to damage (kensai) is replaced with "Gautlets of Weapon Expertise":
+1 to hit, +2 to damage (other fighters).

After you gain that bracers for your regular fighter (there are two pairs of them available), your benefit becomes obvious - armor, that cannot be worn by kensai.

So, kensai's power will show up in BG2:EE. Hope, the release will take place.

Omasyr

Urd1en said:

Kensai is almost useless in BG:EE.
+2 to hit, +2 to damage (kensai) is replaced with "Gautlets of Weapon Expertise":
+1 to hit, +2 to damage (other fighters).

After you gain that bracers for your regular fighter (there are two pairs of them available), your benefit becomes obvious - armor, that cannot be worn by kensai.

So, kensai's power will show up in BG2:EE. Hope, the release will take place.

That that doesn't help at all.

kamuizin

Quarterstaff is ok if you liked it but you're stuck with it for 2 handed being a cleric as every other 2HW make piercing or slashing dmg (which cleric can't use). For a better performance i suggest a rmk of character, and as other ppl said, take mace and war hammer proficience instead. You can go for 2 handed and at the begin use weapon and shield.

The sword and shield style just raise shield AC bonus against missile attacks, so you don't need to pick this proficience to fight in the begin with a weapon and shield.

zur312

wow kensai with kai doing always 10dmg with 2handed sword rather than 1d10 like regular fighter should be pretty good +kensai dmg that regular fighters don't have

kamuizin

Kay waste too faste, isn't too useful, except as a kensai/thief (and then you backstab for the maximum damage).

CaptRory

Kensai is a fun concept. If you're dual classing one, your best bet is to choose a class whose main benefit isn't heavy armor.

Cheesebelly

Undoubtedly the Kensai would deal more damage with a two hander than a cleric would with the only two hander they can use. Simply because the former is 1D10 and the latter is 1D6.

But keep in mind in the long run :
Kai lasts 10 seconds - no upgrade ever.
Righteous Magic, which does what Kai does AND more lasts 6 seconds per caster level.

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But that's neither here nor there, the OP asked what other weapon to use.
It's up to you really. I myself enjoy Flails quite a bit thanks to the superior Morning Star damage. Problem is that wherever you go, in Baldur's Gate 1 at least, the maximum amount of damage your character will make comes out of staffs (unless they added a Morning Star +3 someplace)

1D6 +3 from the Quarterstaff +3
2D4 +2 from the Staff-Mace +2

And that's weapons that can't expire. There is also the Staff of Striking, which you can use 10 times and deals I believe 1D6+9 damage or something similar, making it one of the best damaging weapons in the game (but again, only 10 attacks)

But again, I am not aware of all the newly present Cleric weapons in the game, so this information might be wrong. A simple morning star +3 would beat the Staff-Mace+2 at that point, which is really powerful as a weapon. (but keep in mind, it's one handed, so you don't get the two handed weapon style bonuses)


Other than that, Slings are always nice with Arla's Dragonbane, but I believe you get that on the final floor of Durlag's Tower, so it's a long way to go!

zur312

kiel's morningstar is 2d4+3 but also kind of dangerous as all cursed weapons but also adding +2 dmg from berserking that makes it so much dmg with buffs

righteous magic is 5th level spell so clerics in bg1 will not get this

but dualing if it is ok in bg1 thaco will be stronger even with +2 staff-mace and offhand

ZanathKariashi

I'd go with staff mace, since it counts as a 1hded quarterstaff, and you can then equip a shield with it, while getting your quarterstaff bonuses.....handy for near the end of BG1 when the tougher enemies start coming out of the woodwork.

Also keep in mind, while blunt generally deals less damage then other sources, it also by-passes the extra AC bonuses most armors grant (except vs splint mail) and is the least resisted damage type, and nothing is immune to blunt specifically. Quarterstaves are also extremely fast weapons, even at low levels, and since they're 2hders which have an extra character worth of reach, you can poke an enemy and move away before they can strike (though this move takes some practice).

zur312

but hammer with +1 electric damages pierces stone skin so it is pretty neet too