It's looking like Beamdog is finding the sweet spot of maintaining the integrity of the original game experience, on the one hand, and truly enhancing it, on the other, within all the various real world limitations that exist.
There's some really, really nice stuff to look forward to there. Can't wait to see it.
This news buoys my hopes that the BG/BG2:EE venture will succeed, enabling creation of BG3.
The reason why "Adventure Y" is not on the list is that no details have been officially disclosed yet, and I would rather get to know more about it before I add it to the list. Let us not forget that this is a list of things that have been officially announced, and only includes details that are 100% sure and confirmed.
You could at least give some credit to the modmakers that you're blatantly ripping off. Basically all the stuff being portrayed as "new" has been done many years ago. Congrats on the new characters, I'll bet you even created them with the tutorial on how to do that that you can find in the game's install files from BG1... I mean, you have pretty clearly stated on the forums so far that you're entirely unable to make any new animations, and use the excuse that they've been "lost"... but they haven't. They're right there on the millions of CDs that still exist around the world, and anyone with a bit of unpacking experience could get them for you. Though i get the impression it would be too much work and this is just too easy money.
HD - already done, bugs? long gone! new classes? imported from BG2... i bet we still get the game-breaking experience from writing spells in BG2 that will over level your toon before you even notice.
@Sublux Just because the end animations are there doesn't mean the sources are there. While there are a set of already done animations, that doesn't mean they can use them to make new animations.
At best it would be like trying to decompile a normal program, you get what it does but its still very close to machine code making it almost impossible to read. At worst? You'd have a set of sprites. Bg (most likely) used 3d models to create the sprites, but there's only sprites on the disk's, no 3d models that can be animated.
@Kyon - Either @TrentOster or @PhillipDaigle can probably explain this much better. My interpretation of the sentence is that upon purchasing the game, you basically acquire the right to download and play it. The DRM will check that you have actually acquired that right legitimately before allowing you to start your download.
I asking this because I have internet connection only in my workplace . I will buy it there and download after I will copy my disk and install my gaming rig in the home . This is possible ? İf possible I will buy now .
It is my understanding that BG:EE will come in two versions: one with the Beamdog client, and one without. In your case, you should purchase the one without the Beamdog client (the Beamdog client automatically installs any game it downloads, so porting the hard disk to another computer probably wouldn't work). However, I would wait for one of the devs to confirm or deny this.
where to begin with your comment, how are they ripping off Modmakers? You are either being ignorant or your just a negative person.
I will try and help you understand, what overhaul and beamdog are trying to do is create a clean slate for modders to contine their great work without compatibility issues with having multiple bug fixes, think of it as a new clean copy, with support for newer computers, with better resolution and a enhanced UI and much smoother gameplay .
I know there are lots of mods out there I used to use Balders gate TuTu, but to be honest I disliked spending my time sitting with my friends and having to mod our games out until everything was compatible, personally I would like a clean copy to just get onto it and actually adventure instead of fixing and loading mods and patches.
They are proffesionally supporting this game, with money and with people who work in the gaming industry and they have hired artists and composers to give us some quality enhancments the modding community is great but when there is a company at work with proffesionals that have experience, you know the quality will be good. They have also confirmed there will be more DLC's and that there ultimate goal is baldurs gate 3.
How can that be a rip off? in my country, $17.99 is about £12.00 I earn that in less than an hour, which considering its my favourite game and have played it multiple times over my life and with my friends excited for its release I know theres some good adventures and laughs to be had when this game comes out. (Also on amazon in the uk the baldurs gate series one and two with expansions cost about £8, something like that, but you have to fix the game up and without gameranger it cannot be played on multiplayer with ease.)
Your opinion differs to mine and regardless I wont have a negative outlook, I will enjoy this game, it is just a shame that some people cannot see what it is supposed to be instead of demeaning the effort and hard work of this company
@Majoca He's clearly trolling. And by trolling I mean writing intentionally stupid stuff to rile people up (which is lame), not expressing honestly held but offensive opinion (which I don't mind).
The launcher needs to connect to the server once to authenticate an install of the game, even if you copy the files over. If you can install the game at the office, copy the files onto a USB drive, take it home, drop the files into the same directory (just to minimize hassle, you could put it anywhere and then change the path) you would then need a couple seconds of internet access to authorize the computer. Basically, the updater need to authorize each computer. I'd suggest packing up your box and visiting a friend with an internet connection.
From what Camdawg told me in one of my posts. There will be no need to even have fixpack installed at all. But Its being looked into what parts might have not been put into EE that may need to be made into a new fixpack. Some of the tweak mods will still be used too. The only mods that an be used are adding ontent and NPCs. I doubt Overhaul put alternatives into the game so we can have a good path to follow as well as an assasin kits point of view of things. Those are like the only mods that will still breathe life when EE comes out. Ask Camdawg about this for any information about what may still hang around. he helped me alot for a modder
@TrentOster I'm not in Kyon's position of limited internet access, however I am interested in the premise of his question and your answer for different reasons.
As I understand it, the hard copy edition of the game is still up in the air and may or may not see production. I have limited experience manipulating computer programs, but Kyon's solution of putting all of the game data on a disk seems to be a straightforward way to make a ghetto-rigged physical copy of the game. However, unlike a true stand-alone physical copy, any future installation of the game would require an initial ping from the Beamdog site for authorization. This ties in succinctly with a question I had regarding one of the FAQ's on Beamdog's site, specifically (from the Beamdog site) "What happens to my games if you shut down? We are committed to thinking of our customers first, so if for some unforseen reason we are forced (yes, I say forced as we'll fight tooth and nail to keep the service going) to shut our service down we will remove all date based expiry in the system." I wrote Beamdog regarding this question because I am unsure what this answer really means. Does deleting "all date based expiry" mean that games will no longer be playable, that a future installation of BGEE from my rigged physical copy will not be able to ping the Beamdog site for authorization? I am unfamiliar with this verbiage. I have not heard back from Beamdog regarding this inquiry, but I'd be interested to hear from someone a little more savvy with this type of arrangement. I worry about the same issue w/ all of my Steam games, but Steam is such a giant right now that it seems less pressing. Thanks for any info!
What I would like to see is rearranging things a little on the world map. I know where everything is. I could use a few surprises. I know it is too late but if anyone wants to make a cool new mod. Granted I know the cloud peaks have to be south. The ocean is west, and the desert is east, but is there nothing that could be done within those parameters?
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There's some really, really nice stuff to look forward to there. Can't wait to see it.
This news buoys my hopes that the BG/BG2:EE venture will succeed, enabling creation of BG3.
HD - already done, bugs? long gone! new classes? imported from BG2... i bet we still get the game-breaking experience from writing spells in BG2 that will over level your toon before you even notice.
I Decided that it doesn't worth a comment... I will just keep the wow. :-p
You might actually want to read some info about the game before you start ranting.
At best it would be like trying to decompile a normal program, you get what it does but its still very close to machine code making it almost impossible to read. At worst? You'd have a set of sprites. Bg (most likely) used 3d models to create the sprites, but there's only sprites on the disk's, no 3d models that can be animated.
Also, when do you think we should expect new info? About next month same time?
Me and AndreaColombo aren't a part of the development team. We're really not privy to that kind of info.
All's cool though.
http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/151/decoding-twitters/p1
where to begin with your comment, how are they ripping off Modmakers? You are either being ignorant or your just a negative person.
I will try and help you understand, what overhaul and beamdog are trying to do is create a clean slate for modders to contine their great work without compatibility issues with having multiple bug fixes, think of it as a new clean copy, with support for newer computers, with better resolution and a enhanced UI and much smoother gameplay .
I know there are lots of mods out there I used to use Balders gate TuTu, but to be honest I disliked spending my time sitting with my friends and having to mod our games out until everything was compatible, personally I would like a clean copy to just get onto it and actually adventure instead of fixing and loading mods and patches.
They are proffesionally supporting this game, with money and with people who work in the gaming industry and they have hired artists and composers to give us some quality enhancments the modding community is great but when there is a company at work with proffesionals that have experience, you know the quality will be good. They have also confirmed there will be more DLC's and that there ultimate goal is baldurs gate 3.
How can that be a rip off? in my country, $17.99 is about £12.00 I earn that in less than an hour, which considering its my favourite game and have played it multiple times over my life and with my friends excited for its release I know theres some good adventures and laughs to be had when this game comes out. (Also on amazon in the uk the baldurs gate series one and two with expansions cost about £8, something like that, but you have to fix the game up and without gameranger it cannot be played on multiplayer with ease.)
Your opinion differs to mine and regardless I wont have a negative outlook, I will enjoy this game, it is just a shame that some people cannot see what it is supposed to be instead of demeaning the effort and hard work of this company
I don't think he's going to post here again, but lets try to avoid blatant insults.
-Trent
As I understand it, the hard copy edition of the game is still up in the air and may or may not see production. I have limited experience manipulating computer programs, but Kyon's solution of putting all of the game data on a disk seems to be a straightforward way to make a ghetto-rigged physical copy of the game. However, unlike a true stand-alone physical copy, any future installation of the game would require an initial ping from the Beamdog site for authorization. This ties in succinctly with a question I had regarding one of the FAQ's on Beamdog's site, specifically (from the Beamdog site) "What happens to my games if you shut down? We are committed to thinking of our customers first, so if for some unforseen reason we are forced (yes, I say forced as we'll fight tooth and nail to keep the service going) to shut our service down we will remove all date based expiry in the system." I wrote Beamdog regarding this question because I am unsure what this answer really means. Does deleting "all date based expiry" mean that games will no longer be playable, that a future installation of BGEE from my rigged physical copy will not be able to ping the Beamdog site for authorization? I am unfamiliar with this verbiage. I have not heard back from Beamdog regarding this inquiry, but I'd be interested to hear from someone a little more savvy with this type of arrangement. I worry about the same issue w/ all of my Steam games, but Steam is such a giant right now that it seems less pressing. Thanks for any info!