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Portland Maine legalized the pot!

Chaotic_GoodChaotic_Good Member Posts: 255
I don't smoke the pots, but just as an event my buddies and I will have to go for some Lobster Bisque and smurf and turf. Mmm lobster bisque .... dammit.
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  • DrugarDrugar Member Posts: 1,566
    Is it 'the pot' these days?
    You youngsters and your hip lingo!
  • FinneousPJFinneousPJ Member Posts: 6,455
    Very nice. Congrats, Portland Maine.
  • Kitteh_On_A_CloudKitteh_On_A_Cloud Member Posts: 1,629
    Could someone explain me what exactly is meant with 'the pot'? :o
  • FredjoFredjo Member Posts: 477

    Could someone explain me what exactly is meant with 'the pot'? :o

    marijuana
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,317
    edited November 2013

    Could someone explain me what exactly is meant with 'the pot'? :o

    Residents of Portland, Maine will now be allowed to practice the historic French-Canadian practice of protesting while banging pots. Previously bylaws restricted it due to noise complaints

    :p
  • DeeDee Member Posts: 10,447
    Finally, my Portland friends can make pasta without fear of being snatched by the Feds.
  • rexregrexreg Member Posts: 292
    good
  • Chaotic_GoodChaotic_Good Member Posts: 255
    Hmm I don't think it would be a problem even if we were given a hard time we could just pick up a vagrant and party down. I would just be like hey bro want to get high and eat lobster bisque all day ... who is going to say no to that. I would imagine we would prolly pick up some cloths for him let him clean up in our hotel room.
  • Chaotic_GoodChaotic_Good Member Posts: 255
    edited November 2013
    Oh shit I am in Ohio and 3 cities in Michigan voted the same way... I will still be going to maine.
  • Kitteh_On_A_CloudKitteh_On_A_Cloud Member Posts: 1,629
    I don't get it. Why would something so lethal for your health get legalized?
  • FinneousPJFinneousPJ Member Posts: 6,455
    Lethal, what?
  • TJ_HookerTJ_Hooker Member Posts: 2,438
    edited November 2013

    I don't get it. Why would something so lethal for your health get legalized?

    I would say pot is fairly harmless, especially in comparison to other legal drugs such as alchohol and tobacco (nevermind various prescription drugs). I say this as someone who drinks a fair bit of alcohol and smokes cigarettes (when I'm drinking anyways), and doesn't smoke pot.
  • LateralusLateralus Member Posts: 903
    in related news, 89% of Americans have moved to Portland.
  • Chaotic_GoodChaotic_Good Member Posts: 255
    @Kitteh_On_A_Cloud
    I don't think you can outlaw a state and what do you expect from the home of Ted Nugent.
  • FredjoFredjo Member Posts: 477
    edited November 2013

    I don't get it. Why would something so lethal for your health get legalized?

    I think we should also ban cars, cigarettes, alcohol and Lineage of course, because Koreans are specialist at dying while playing Lineage (and Startcraft and WoW and...any other game too )
  • PurudayaPurudaya Member Posts: 816
    Dee said:

    Finally, my Portland friends can make pasta without fear of being snatched by the Feds.

    Be careful with that- just because the pots are decriminalized at the state level doesn't mean the feds won't still roll in if they smell rotini nearby.

    Happened to my cousin.
  • Chaotic_GoodChaotic_Good Member Posts: 255
    Sounds like potsta is a pretty common thing.
  • The_Potty_1The_Potty_1 Member Posts: 436

    Could someone explain me what exactly is meant with 'the pot'? :o

    Me. They're talking about me. Whoohoo, I'm legal!

    Seriously, this is way overdue. So it's legal to possess a recreational amount, but illegal to sell? Bummer, to be legal, you'll have to grow it yourself.

    Now they need to pass the same law here. Except the cops'll be pissed, there's nothing they like more than raiding half a ton of weed, making a big pile, setting it on fire, and standing about making sure that every last leaf gets burned ...
  • AyiekieAyiekie Member Posts: 975

    I don't get it. Why would something so lethal for your health get legalized?

    Well, aside from what's already been pointed out about the relative dangerousness of marijuana compared to things that are legal:

    Why exactly is it the government's business what I, as a legal adult sound in mind, choose to put into my body? If I want to take a recreational drug that may harm me, I don't see why that's anybody else's business unless I'm putting other people at risk; e.g., smoking pot and driving.

  • Kitteh_On_A_CloudKitteh_On_A_Cloud Member Posts: 1,629
    Fredjo said:

    I don't get it. Why would something so lethal for your health get legalized?

    I think we should also ban cars, cigarettes, alcohol and Lineage of course, because Koreans are specialist at dying while playing Lineage (and Startcraft and WoW and...any other game too )
    Oh please. If you're gonna reply to my comment, please do so in a mature way. Marijuana, like any other drug, can cause serious harm to your body. Or maybe you like your body to be full of injection marks? Maybe you like to cause your nose to bleed after sniffing it? When seeing such things, I can only shake my head in disbelief, how some people can be so incredibly stupid to ruin their body. What about kids now? What example does this pose to them? That addiction is something you do for recreational fun? I can already see the youth walking stoned through the streets. I know drugs will be always there, that it can't be stopped. Yet I feel legalizing such shit just is immoral. It's like the government doesn't even try anymore. There will always be shit to put in your body...but you only have one body in this life.
  • Kitteh_On_A_CloudKitteh_On_A_Cloud Member Posts: 1,629
    Ayiekie said:

    I don't get it. Why would something so lethal for your health get legalized?

    Well, aside from what's already been pointed out about the relative dangerousness of marijuana compared to things that are legal:

    Why exactly is it the government's business what I, as a legal adult sound in mind, choose to put into my body? If I want to take a recreational drug that may harm me, I don't see why that's anybody else's business unless I'm putting other people at risk; e.g., smoking pot and driving.

    And how can you be so sure you won't be harming anyone else? When you're high or stoned, your actions sometimes become unpredictable. You never know what you will be doing. And your family, girlfriend/wife, friends (those with some healthy common sense, of couse) will certainly like seeing you ruin yourself. Besides, legalizing such shit only promotes its use for people who have problems. They will drown themselves in drug abuse instead of actually getting some help in solving their problems. Taking drugs will become triple as easy now. The seduction will become so much bigger. Feeling depressed? Just take some good shot of marijuana! You'll feel better like never before! But don't expect it to solve any of your problems! Sorry, but that just makes me sad.
  • AyiekieAyiekie Member Posts: 975
    Marijuana isn't actually physically addictive, unlike alcohol and tobacco, which are very, very physically addictive. Alcoholics have to avoid the drug for their entire rest of their lives or risk complete relapse, and tobacco is usually compared to heroin in terms of how difficult it is to break the addiction to it.

    You will also find, unless you live a remarkably ascetic life, that you put an awful lot of drugs into your body for various things, sometimes without realising it. Do you have a "comfort food", for instance? A lot of common comfort foods stimulate the production of certain hormones, just like any other mood-altering substance. Chocolate, for instance, is known to stimulate dopamine in the brain (which is why it is sometimes eaten in large quantities by people self-medicating for ADHD; in some ways it's similar to a weak dose of Ritalin).

    And, of course, for an even more obvious example, why are coffee and tea the world's most popular beverages? It isn't because of their taste (not saying nobody likes their taste, but that's not why they became popular in antiquity), it's because they provide you with the drug caffeine. Which also has effects on the brain with long consumption, is mildly addictive, can be overdosed on, and so forth.

    In any case, whether you think people who take a drug are stupid or harming their body, it's still none of YOUR business what anybody else does with their own body, and it shouldn't be the government's business either.
  • CoM_SolaufeinCoM_Solaufein Member Posts: 2,606
    Damn liberal hippies. ;)
  • Kitteh_On_A_CloudKitteh_On_A_Cloud Member Posts: 1,629
    Perfect. But just wait until your kids come home with a bag of marijuana. Maybe you'll react differently then. Or when your daughter's baby is suffering from mental and physical problems because your daughter was stupid enough to fill herself up with shit. Or when a friend of yours dies from an overdose. The examples you mentioned (chocolate, tea, etc) are still nowhere as dangerous and risky as real shit like softcore and hardcore drugs.
  • FredjoFredjo Member Posts: 477
    edited November 2013

    Fredjo said:

    I don't get it. Why would something so lethal for your health get legalized?

    I think we should also ban cars, cigarettes, alcohol and Lineage of course, because Koreans are specialist at dying while playing Lineage (and Startcraft and WoW and...any other game too )
    Oh please. If you're gonna reply to my comment, please do so in a mature way. Marijuana, like any other drug, can cause serious harm to your body. Or maybe you like your body to be full of injection marks? Maybe you like to cause your nose to bleed after sniffing it? When seeing such things, I can only shake my head in disbelief, how some people can be so incredibly stupid to ruin their body. What about kids now? What example does this pose to them? That addiction is something you do for recreational fun? I can already see the youth walking stoned through the streets. I know drugs will be always there, that it can't be stopped. Yet I feel legalizing such shit just is immoral. It's like the government doesn't even try anymore. There will always be shit to put in your body...but you only have one body in this life.

    I think you've been seriously misinformed, marijuana is basically a dried plant, the "active ingredient" THC is mostly in the pollen and if you were to inject it to your veins, you'd die in a few minutes blocking the bloodstream.

    Neither can marijuana be sniffed, it'd be just plain silly to do that.
    Marijuana is either smoked or "eaten", a dough can be prepared as well as milk and butter.

    Now marijuana is most certainly a drug as much as alcohol and nicotine, but it can be very helpful in curing or mitigating the effects of various neurological illnesses including Alzheimer and epilepsy and many others.

    The main reasons to legalize such a drug are:

    1. To legalize the usage for the people who can benefit from it's curing qualities

    2. To mitigate black market and tax the hell out of it :)


    The 1. is obviously very important and it's a shame that our governments have been preventing us from using a herb that can improve lives for many, mostly elderly people.
  • Kitteh_On_A_CloudKitteh_On_A_Cloud Member Posts: 1,629
    When it comes to coffee: I don't drink it especially because I know how addictive it can be. When it comes to chocolate and tea, I have never started seeing pink elephants after consuming both. And nobody is so stupid to start drinking 30 cups of tea, or eating 30 bars of chocolate a day.
  • Kitteh_On_A_CloudKitteh_On_A_Cloud Member Posts: 1,629
    Alzheimer can't be cured. So I don't see why my grandmother would start smoking it every day. I'd rather see her take official medication instead of such shit.
  • AyiekieAyiekie Member Posts: 975

    Perfect. But just wait until your kids come home with a bag of marijuana. Maybe you'll react differently then.

    Or maybe I wouldn't, because I have the courage of my convictions. In fact, I already know how I'd react if people close to me smoked marijuana.


    Or when your daughter's baby is suffering from mental and physical problems because your daughter was stupid enough to fill herself up with shit.

    Fun fact: my mother smoked tobacco when I was a fetus; smoking tobacco during pregnancy raises the risk of the child having ADHD and several other deleterious effects by thousands of times. Guess what? I have ADHD. And yet, tobacco is not illegal.

    Drinking alcohol during pregnancy is far more dangerous to the fetus than marijuana and tobacco combined. And yet, alcohol is not illegal.

    You're scaremongering.


    Or when a friend of yours dies from an overdose. The examples you mentioned (chocolate, tea, etc) are still nowhere as dangerous and risky as real shit like softcore and hardcore drugs.

    I mentioned alcohol and tobacco, which are both more dangerous than marijuana and a lot of other recreational illegal drugs.

    You're also assuming people are more likely to overdose on drugs if the drugs are legal. In fact, legalising and properly educating people about drugs consistently reduces both addiction and overdose levels, as well as significantly reducing the spread of diseases from things like sharing needles. This has been proven repeatedly in the real world - read up on Portugal's experience for a very notable example.

    If you actually care about all the things you're saying here, you'd support the legalisation of these drugs, as counterintuitive as that may seem to you.
  • FredjoFredjo Member Posts: 477
    As you can read in my post "curing or mitigating the effects of ... illnesses"
    Thankfully the medicinal qualities of marijuana has been officially proven and legalized by governments of many countries, including mine (Czech Republic)

    Marijuana has been so far the most effective medicine for slowing down the effects of Alzheimer diseases
    saying that you'd rather give her "official medication" is like saying that you trust the bureaucracy of your government more when it comes to health of your grandmother than the actual pharmaceutic researchers.
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