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Manuals up for BG2EE (Spoilers)

So anyone who's picked up the standalone launcher for preloading may have spotted the link to the manuals. Anyone who wants to go into BG2EE completely unspoiled may want to avoid the Amn Survival Guide, but everyone else can divine some minor spoilers. Namely, locations where recruitable NPC's can be found:

Hexxat: Copper Coronet
Neera: Bridge District
Dorn: Outside the High Hall of the Radiant Heart(!)
Rasaad: Trademeet


There's also a couple of tidbits about Hexxat:
Neutral Evil Human Thief. Also, uses the portrait we have long suspected is hers from the screenshots.

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  • JalilyJalily Member Posts: 4,681
    Fixed the link.
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,317
    I'm noticing that with the Mastering of Melee and Magic manual I can't click somewhere in the table of contents and have it take me there. It works in the Amn Survival Guide though.

    For instance if I click on "Effects of Poison" it should take me to page 9. Right now it doesn't.
  • JuliusBorisovJuliusBorisov Member, Administrator, Moderator, Developer Posts: 22,754
    edited November 2013
    I've quickly read the manuals and have found the following.

    The Dark Moon Monk (Monk Kit) description says nothing about the Detect Illusion ability while in the 1.2 version of BG:EE these monks can use it. It's a strong feature and desires some mentioning in the manual. Or is something changed?

    The Bard description now says that while active, the Bard Song has the following effects:

    o Restore morale to its average value
    o Remove Fear
    o Protection From Fear

    Previously, it had the following effects:

    1st Level: +2 morale per round
    15th Level: +1 luck, +2 morale per round
    20th Level: +2 luck, immunity to fear, immunity to morale loss.

    Is it a change?

    And of course, thanks for the Shadowdancer's modified backstab progression:

    o Level 1-4: x1 (no multiplier)
    o Level 5-8: x2
    o Level 9-12: x3
    o Level 13+: x4

    Adiitional and special thanks for the Shadowdancer's unique High Level Abilities: it's cool to have new HLAs and it's cool that a Shadowdancer now has something truly epic:



    o SHADOW FORM: This ability temporarily transposes some of the Shadowdancer’s tissue with shadow-material, making the subject partially incorporeal. For the next 5 rounds, all physical attacks directed against the Shadowdancer deal only 50% of their normal damage. During this time the Shadowdancer is also under the effects of Improved Invisibility and cannot be directly targeted by spells.
    o SHADOW MAZE: This ability opens a temporary gateway to a small pocket within the Plane of Shadow. All enemies within 10 feet of the Shadowdancer must make a saving throw vs. spells at a -4 penalty or become trapped inside a shadowy labyrinth, as per the Maze spell.
    o SHADOW TWIN: This ability creates an almost exact duplicate of the Shadowdancer for 2 turns. The duplicate is created at 60% of the level at which the Shadowdancer is currently on. It has all the abilities that the Shadowdancer would have at that level. It also has 60% of the hit points of the Shadowdancer. The duplicate is fully under the control of the Shadowdancer.



    EDIT: It would be great to have progression tables in manuals not only till level 10 but further till maximum. Also, the famous items can include not only those from BG1 but those from BG2, there're many legendary items both in SoA and ToB.
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  • CoM_SolaufeinCoM_Solaufein Member Posts: 2,606
    edited November 2013
    O NOES!! Info!
  • magpiemagpie Member Posts: 79
    where is some of the info from the ToB manual, like the HLA descriptions and such? I can't find it.
  • JalilyJalily Member Posts: 4,681
    BGII:EE DMMs will still have Detect Illusion.

    Bard Song has been tweaked.
    magpie said:

    where is some of the info from the ToB manual, like the HLA descriptions and such? I can't find it.

    Shadowdancer HLAs are in Mastering Melee & Magic, p.47. Wizard HLAs are on p.145. Priest HLAs are on p.187. The others aren't in there.
  • AstafasAstafas Member Posts: 448
    Are Neera and Dorn downloadable content?! Will you have to pay extra for them? Are they available from tomorrow as well, or will we have to wait?
  • EudaemoniumEudaemonium Member Posts: 3,199
    I'm guessing it means 'DLC for iPad'. The Mac and PC version presumably have all the content, like last time.
  • MessiMessi Member Posts: 738
    Jalily said:

    BGII:EE DMMs will still have Detect Illusion.

    Bard Song has been tweaked.

    magpie said:

    where is some of the info from the ToB manual, like the HLA descriptions and such? I can't find it.

    Shadowdancer HLAs are in Mastering Melee & Magic, p.47. Wizard HLAs are on p.145. Priest HLAs are on p.187. The others aren't in there.
    Does that mean that SD is the only kit with unique HLAs? (note I'm not complaning just curious)
  • SpiffyMcBangSpiffyMcBang Member Posts: 160
    I'm trying to figure out how the ranger pool of abilities will affect an archer. Most of them give the idea of being used in melee, but do they still work with ranged weapons? Are there any that won't? A hasted archer with Critical Strike is just... I mean... god, I might start sweating thinking about the possibilities here.

    And that one seems like it would logically work. What about Whirlwind Attack? And does haste stack with Whirlwind Attack?
  • badbromancebadbromance Member Posts: 238
    bengoshi said:


    o Level 1-4: x1 (no multiplier)
    o Level 5-8: x2
    o Level 9-12: x3
    o Level 13+: x4

    Is this a typo for BG2EE and if not can we expect to see this change go into BGEE next patch?

  • PibaroPibaro Member, Translator (NDA) Posts: 2,989
    Rasaad description in manual says:
    "Then Gamaz was slain by Alorgoth"
    ?????
    Did I play a different BGEE? Or maybe there was a different path I didn't choose?
  • LiamEslerLiamEsler Member Posts: 1,859
    @Pibaro That's the way Rasaad sees things. :)
  • SceptenarSceptenar Member Posts: 606
    LiamEsler said:

    @Pibaro That's the way Rasaad sees things. :)

    It's an Obi-Wan "from a certain point of view" kind of thing.
  • PibaroPibaro Member, Translator (NDA) Posts: 2,989
    @LiamEsler
    Ok, that's clarifying.
    So basically that's what has been told, and that's what Volo heard.
    Thank You, I really thought I missed an important option in rasaad quest in BGEE.
  • EudaemoniumEudaemonium Member Posts: 3,199
    Can I just flag up that the Manual lists Edwin as Chaotic Evil.
  • QueynosQueynos Member, Translator (NDA) Posts: 127
    The list of "powerful" magical items in BG2 might need some rewriting as it list the +2 axe, bracers of AC6, +1 plate, the ring of protection +1 which are not really powerful items in BG2, morevover it also list the wolf cape which isn't even in the game.
  • CorvinoCorvino Member Posts: 2,269
    edited November 2013
    @Queynos - I think this is a carry-over from it being an updated version of the BG:EE manual. IIRC the vanilla BG2 manual lists the Equalizer, the Wave Halberd and Crom Faeyr.

    *Edit* There are a few more carry-overs from the BG:EE manual that aren't present in the vanilla BG2 manual, including descriptions of the Red Wizards, the Mages of Halruaa and Zhentarim. These could be intentional due to the inclusion of Edwin, Xzar and now Neera who has been pursued by the Red Wizards. It's either there because removing it to save space with a digital manual is pointless or because it's relevant.
  • AranthysAranthys Member Posts: 722
    No new spells makes me a sad panda :D
  • SchneidendSchneidend Member Posts: 3,190
    Thank you, wise @elminster, to allow me to not get any work done and instead read the manuals.
  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 16,317
    edited November 2013

    Thank you, wise @elminster, to allow me to not get any work done and instead read the manuals.

    If it weren't for Kaigen mentioning it I wouldn't have known they were up :)
  • SchneidendSchneidend Member Posts: 3,190
    ...Done reading already. No new spells, and only the Shadowdancer gets new HLAs? Bah.
  • MornmagorMornmagor Member Posts: 1,160
    Yeah, no new kits, spells, races and whatnot. Only Shadowdancer gets some new HLA >_>
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