#6568 [CORE] - Imported characters do not get Watcher's Keep marked on the worldmap

Tisamon

As opposed to BG2EE created characters. Tested with several created vs. imported characters. A very similar issue was referenced here: https://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/24232/map-bug-watcher-s-keep, but an import from BGEE wasn't named as a reason, so perhaps it's a different bug.

Also, can one of the modders provide a permanent manual solution, maybe? (Not MoveToArea every time you need to get there, but some neat SetGlobal something that will nail it there for the whole playthrough? )

Messi

I imported character from BGEE, and got WK. Though I literally imported a character file, not a save.

Tisamon

Hence the difference. Try it with a saved game now.

Paulg

.... yea, i imported from a save.. no Watchers keep... lame

Tisamon

I believe it must have an easy enough manual solution via the console. But I need one of the, well, wise men to speak on the subject, as my own IE skills are quite rudimentary (elementary kit modding + looking up precise in-game statistics in Near Infinity for my hardcore runs).

prophet1

I don't think updating world map from console is possible, it can only be done from a script or dialog with RevealAreaOnMap() action.

Tisamon

A simple script is also okay. In fact, as long as using it is not more annoying/time consuming than typing MoveToArea every time you need to head to WK, anything goes

Tiddles

I *did* start my game that way, via importing from a BG1(EE) save, and I did get this problem. However, the save I created that I mentioned in the other thread was created exactly the same way, and does have Watcher's Keep right out of the gate, so I don't think it's as simple as that.

As I mentioned in the other thread, I did hook up a simple player AI script that should remove and add WK on the map via hotkeys (HideAreaOnMap/RevealAreaOnMap), but while both removing and adding worked correctly in the game that was already OK, no amount of hotkeying would add it to the game where it never showed up, in spite of getting notifications about the world map being updated.

I too would be most grateful for a working workaround if anyone can figure one out!

prophet1

I'm attaching a fix:
- unzip .BS file into the "scripts" folder (not override)
- in the game assign WKREVEAL script it to any character via customize->scripts
- with that character selected hit "K" on your keyboard
This should update your world map with WK.

By the way I couldn't replicate the problem - after importing my BG1EE saved game I can see Watcher's Keep on the world map right off the bat (after Imoen joins me and I can use UI). It wasn't the "final" save though, just in-progress save.

prophet1

Forgot the file.

Tisamon

Thanks a lot, prophet!

WebDrake

@prophet1: it doesn't work for me. :-( The game says: "Your map has been updated" but WK does not actually appear.

Tiddles

Yep, same here - this is exactly what I tried to do. If you take a working save and *hide* WK, this will put it back, but it doesn't do anything in my bugged playthrough - it says the map has been updated but does not actually add the icon.

WebDrake

It's very annoying -- I got through a fair bit of the game before noticing this, and though it's always a joy to play, I really don't fancy having to re-do things to be able to get WK on the map.

OK, I can use the CLUAConsole command to move the party there, but it's not the same. :-P

Rann

(Just for the sake of a data point -- I imported from a save and it showed up fine.)

Xzar

I imported from a save, and I see WK in Chapter 2, no problems here.

marceror

So is using console commands the only workaround at this point? If so, can someone tell me how to enable the console in BG2EE?

marceror

By the way, I'm pretty certain that I imported my character rather than a save, and I'm also having the problem. I'm running Win 8 64 bit.

Emptiness

My game was created as a multiplayer game, with six characters imported from character files. Watcher's Keep does not appear on my map.

WebDrake

@Rann: was it a final save, or a regular save? In my case, final save. So far this seems consistent with what other people have reported -- import from character files or regular saves is OK, import from final save is not.

Emptiness

I imported from character files, and it was not on my map. To test, I created a single-player game and imported just my main character from his character file, and it is not on my map.

Edit: I started a single-player game and created a new character. Watcher's Keep does appear on my map. (I don't know if it matters, but I'm on Win7 and installed using the stand-alone installer.)

Aranthys

I imported from a save (copied the save from the BG:EE save folder to the BG2:EE save folder), and Watcher's Keep is on my map, weird.
Note that I haven't tried moving to there yet

Emptiness

To test further, I created a multiplayer (tcp/ip) game and created one new character to play. Watcher's Keep does not appear on the map for this character.

marceror

I just created a new multiplayer game and a new single player game to test, using characters available in the pre-generated list. Watcher's Keep shows up on the map in both games.

I'm not sure what went wrong with my current game, but I do hope that Beamdog will be able to provide a fix so that I will be able to see Watcher's Keep on my map.

In the meantime, I guess I'll need to figure out how to enable the console, and figure out what the command to go to this area is?

Incidentally, if I want to leave watcher's keep after using the console to get there, do I again need to use the console to reach the place I want to go to?

Paulg

i want to know that too ^^ can we just go to the edge of the map and leave, or do we have to CLUAconsole out again?

Tiddles

You can leave just fine, you just need to use the console to get back there if you want to, as it still doesn't appear on the map. Your travelling hours will be wrong when you leave though (I think they'll act as if you're still where you did the MoveTo from).

The command is:
CLUAConsole:MoveToArea("AR3000")

Make sure your entire party is selected first. (Well, you could move one character, but I imagine you're going to have to gather your party before venturing forth anywhere meaningful.) They will awkwardly spawn on the roof, so you have to go downstairs to talk to the knights first time out.

Here's one thread that describes how to enable the console to begin with: http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/24300/clua-console-for-bg2ee

For what it's worth - the game I have a problem with was imported from a non-final save (albeit at the end of the game; I escaped the final area before the script ran to end it all!) But I used the same save to create a working game to test later so I'm really not convinced that importing or the particular source has anything to do with it, especially given the other testimonies in this thread.

marceror

Thanks. All sorted with the console enabled and the CLUA command for when I'm ready to head to the keep. I guess I'll just try to conquer the whole thing in one go, which means I'll head there late in chapter 2/3, after I've completed like basically every other quest possible.

Paulg

Tiddles said:

You can leave just fine, you just need to use the console to get back there if you want to, as it still doesn't appear on the map. Your travelling hours will be wrong when you leave though (I think they'll act as if you're still where you did the MoveTo from).

The command is:
CLUAConsole:MoveToArea("AR3000")

Make sure your entire party is selected first. (Well, you could move one character, but I imagine you're going to have to gather your party before venturing forth anywhere meaningful.) They will awkwardly spawn on the roof, so you have to go downstairs to talk to the knights first time out.

Here's one thread that describes how to enable the console to begin with: http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/24300/clua-console-for-bg2ee

For what it's worth - the game I have a problem with was imported from a non-final save (albeit at the end of the game; I escaped the final area before the script ran to end it all!) But I used the same save to create a working game to test later so I'm really not convinced that importing or the particular source has anything to do with it, especially given the other testimonies in this thread.

@Tiddles thanks doc! you saved my life! you are now entitled to my first born.

thedreamninja

Just wanted to state that I too imported my character from a BG:EE save and WK doesn't show up on my map.

Mornmagor

WK does not appear for me either, and i did not import anything.

Illydth

The good news is this should be a well known issue and thus is probably in the "being fixed" stage at this point.

Bug #6568. Will make sure this gets added to the upcoming known issues post.