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Did anyone beat Dragomir in a fair fight?

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  • ifupaulineifupauline Member Posts: 405
    debuff first and spell trigger lower resist x3, use spell like cone of cold, vampire touch anything with instant cast (robe of vecna) a single mage with maximum buff + haste juste run around and cast.

  • walronwalron Member Posts: 1
    Had problems with Dragomir being early in the game. Used a potion with Oil of Speed, picked the lock to the Chest and found Daystar (double damage to undead) and used that to kill him. Otherwise I guess running back and forth from the crypt to the Inn s a simple way of having him trigger spells that get spoiled...

  • AmmarAmmar Member Posts: 1,076
    I don't really recall him as an encounter. On my one evil walkthrough of BG 2:EE I picked up Hexxat fairly quickly in the game (i.e. before going slavers or any Stronghold quests) to fill out my party, and I can't recall having difficulties with the Dragomir encounter.

  • gorgonzolagorgonzola Member Posts: 3,621
    I did it only once, was quick, fast and easy.
    But it was not the first quest, i had the correct equipment and an other advantage, i am used to play the tactics mod irenicus dungeon, the best school to learn to deal with over leveled enemies without having levels and special items.
    I think that every player should try and master that mod component as it can change the way he fight making it so more efficient. Even if the player dont want to play the rest of the mod to create some different class charnames and play the tactics start dungeon at 80k xp can change forever the player, making him reach a higher level.

  • dunbardunbar Member Posts: 1,543
    I do this quest early in the game and just make sure my fighter has got a +3 weapon (usually the Blade of Roses) and send him/her in alone, buffed with Chaotic Commands and Haste - job done.

    gorgonzola
  • Paulan969Paulan969 Member Posts: 13
    I think Minsc with berserker rage was able to kill the bastard 1v1 with Liralcor... twas begining of SoA. lvl 12/13 somethin like that

    gorgonzola
  • TheMadVikingTheMadViking Member Posts: 35
    Same as @Paulan969.

    In my last playthroughs, I always send either Korgan or Minsc in with a + 3 three weapon when I want to get him killed quickly as both has berserker rage. Come to think of it, i never really had any problems with him with any party composition. Normally, I beat him at lvl 9/10 chars, as it is one of the first quests you can do after you escape chateau Irencus.

    gorgonzola
  • jmerryjmerry Member Posts: 872
    It's not Dragomir that's the big threat in this quest. It's the random devil shades that show up if you delay at all. Those are ToB monsters, and they can show up with a party at 1 million experience, on core difficulty. Permanently hasted, level drain on hit with no save, spawns a pair of shadow fiends when it dies... ouch.

    Then, of course, you do it really early to avoid that, with an underequipped party. You can't rely on immunity to his tricks, so you have to either fight unfair or accept a challenge.
    Finding enough +2 weapons to hurt him, at least, shouldn't be a problem. A standard run through the started dungeon will typically get you a +2 for your protagonist and a +2 two-handed sword, you can buy at least one more +2 or +3 weapon from Bernard after clearing the back rooms, and there's a +2 dagger in the tomb itself for "Hexxat".

  • gorgonzolagorgonzola Member Posts: 3,621
    It is also possible to steal some +2 weapons from various merchants like myra in the promenade.
    About level draining i find it annoying, but every temple can easily fix it.

    It is true that some EE introduced battles are at an other level of difficulty from the traditional vanilla ones, so some players can find them almost impossible without tricks or exploits, but with proper tactics are doable even at low level.

    StummvonBordwehr
  • iosfrustrationiosfrustration Member Posts: 132
    Extreme thread necro, to discuss an undead/necromantic/lich. The meta in this one is juicy and delights me
    In the time-spanning spirit of this thread I offer a time-spanning solution. Daystar has recently been patched to match it’s description (+4 to hit vs evil) double damage vs evil, sunray once per day.
    This makes daystar a late-game quality weapon that you can access very early in the game. Shadow Patrick also doesn’t stand a chance.
    It’s questionable if actually using it for this encounter counts as s “fair” fight of course...

    gorgonzolaSkatan
  • ManatorManator Member Posts: 1
    I beat him only with my main. The +2 dagger a d the protection of undead 2hrs. I left my group behind went to him and just attacked. He never hit me or tried to hit me once. And I sat game down and won without even touching the system. Easy as 1 2 3

  • ShangerooShangeroo Member Posts: 84
    We’re talking about the guy who originally has Hexxat’s cloak right? If so, I never recalled any difficulty killing him. A hasted kensai dual wielding daystar and burning earth kills him pretty easily. This is normally one of the early quests I go to just because I want Hexxat, or really just her bag of holding.

  • PokotaPokota Member Posts: 684
    edited February 18
    I approach this (and many other fights) with the following maxim in mind: "there is no such thing as a fair fight." Either I'm fighting on my terms or their terms, and I'd much rather fight on my terms.

    (and as the game is over if I lose, there's not much incentive for me to fight fair on their terms, now is there?)

    ThacoBell
  • gorgonzolagorgonzola Member Posts: 3,621
    Pokota wrote: »
    I approach this (and many other fights) with the following maxim in mind: "there is no such thing as a fair fight." Either I'm fighting on my terms or their terms, and I'd much rather fight on my terms.
    i completely agree with you on this.
    still for me to fight on my terms means tactical dominance, to have every enemy exactly where i want and target who i want, to have certain attacks (like wing buffets) or spells target a protected character or a cheap summon instead of damaging half of the party.
    sometimes it means also to spot the enemy unseen and drop a preemptive bombing, but then i make the party visible by the enemies, i use the fog of war, but never abuse of it and of the ai that make theenemies don't react if they are attacked but don't see who is doing it.

    this to tell that imo to fight on our terms and to use/abuse of ai weaknesses or use cheap tactics that make the victory effortless and without any risk are 2 completely different things.
    it is perfectly possible to fight in a fair way and at the same time at your terms.

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