So does Hexxat work with a good party?
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Provided I change her alignment with EEKeeper so she doesn't ditch at 19-20 reputation... she's not going to like, kill Neera or anything?
Or do I need to plan on another thief?
Or do I need to plan on another thief?
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EDIT: I'm also not sure that changing her alignment will make her stay with the party if your reputation gets too high, that's probably a character flag that's not directly tied to it. I couldn't say either way but I'd be surprised if the game actually checked alignment.
I seem to recall alignment switching working for me at some point, but it was so long ago that I can't be sure. For what it's worth, this is in happy.2da:
GOOD NEUTRAL EVIL
1 -301 -300 85
2 -300 -161 84
3 -161 -160 83
4 -161 -81 82
5 -160 -80 81
6 -82 0 80
7 -81 0 3
8 -80 0 2
9 -1 0 1
10 0 0 0
11 1 0 -1
12 2 0 -2
13 80 0 -80
14 81 0 -81
15 82 0 -82
16 83 80 -160
17 84 81 -161
18 85 82 -162
19 86 83 -300
20 87 84 -301
(EDIT: Is there a code tag to preserve spaces?)
Which suggests to me that -300 or lower means they leave. It also looks like they Enhanced neutral characters so they wouldn't be unhappy with high reputation.
Also, how do I best hover at 16 rep
I'm not taking any of the real goodies this time around, F/I, Hexxat, Jaheira, Neera, Nalia, Viconia right now. Neera actually fights with Hexxat and so does Jaheira, but not enough for either to leave. I kinda wish I could take Mazzy with Hexxat, oh well.
Will taking Keldorn etc for just the time it takes for their quest upset Hexxat? I can't take Edwin anyway since I have Neera so that's a non-issue.
If you are romancing Hexxat, you can even have 20 rep and she won't leave. If you are at certain stage, of course.
And to answer philosophically to the OP, Hexxat works perfectly with a good party. It's them who seem to have a problem xD
But seriously, it is difficult from a role playing perspective to see why any good character would travel with either of the new evil npcs. My neutral good bard killed them both on site
To be serious, is there a setup where Hexxat specifically initiates her dislike towards any other NPC which results in a fight and/or her leaving the party? Since she is rather unhappy with her current state and from few conversations with Rasaad, I kind of assumed that if anything, it's the others who have the problem
To be serious, I'm not saying she attacks or insults any other NPC or instigates conflict. I'm saying that almost no good NPC or PC would willingly travel with her knowing what she is and what she does (going double for Dorn who boasts about killing women and children) if we want to roleplay with any integrity.
In fact, I'd think even evil and neutral NPCs would have major problems. I doubt Edwin would stand for being looked at as potential food or be happy with Dorn's nonchalant slaughter drawing the interest of powerful forces. Korgan is unhappy with the problems that Nalia brings to the group, I'm certain he'd find it worse to have even more of a hassle.
I guess it shows how much he changed since BG1.
Dorn is essentially an extreme, divine-driven Korgan, which makes him harder to keep around, but offers little else except somebody else to take as an evil fighter on different playthroughs. I can't imagine having both at once, but it certainly is difficult to keep him or Hexxat in a mixed party, which is a shame.
I actually find Hexxat to be more LE than NE in general, to be honest.
She's actually pretty friendly with jaheira and neera etc. doesn't bait them at all like she apparently does with Aerie, so you never even get an inkling that she feeds outside of battle. Hexxat if you romance her with a neutral party seems no more "evil" than Jan, just maybe a bit more mercenary, with an insistence that she adheres to her contracts.
Viconia, jaheira and neera constantly have elf politics debates though. I find it funny that Jaheria actually vouched for recruiting Viconia though. Neera flipped when she saw Edwin though.
Korgan works with everyone which is kinda wierd.
I'm currently playing a mixed alignement party playthrough in SOA (Charname Druid, Dorn, Valygar, Neera, Aerie, Hexxat) and I heard that Hexxat eventually enters into conflict with Aerie in TOB (Valygar as well in SOA but apparently there is a way to talk him down and keep him anyway?).
What I was wondering is if there is a solution to keep both characters in the party up to the end of the game or will I be eventually forced to pick between Aerie and Hexxat? Going as far as TOB I think it's going to be quite a pain to find a proper replacement for one or the other.
Ranger/Cleric, Mazzy, Korgan, Wilson, Jan and a flex. I guess I'd usually take Imoen, which works out as a second mage too... Problem is that means I'll have to go straight to Spellhold early because if I don't, Imoen will be way behind in levels.
Also she finally stands up for herself in ToB, and Korgan says that he was just toughenin' 'er up the whole time, and he's happy she now has a backbone.
On a serious note... I haven't played the EE so forgive me if it's a dumb question, but is the only evil thing about her the fact that she needs to feed? Can't you give her some bandits that you were going to thoroughly stab anyways?
As for the second question, there is a difference in choosing who to feed on. She basically says when you first meet her she doesn't care who she eats at all. She doesn't do the vegetarian vampire thing (lol) by only eating bandits or Shadow Thieves or Orcs.
So while she's not not "angryangrykillkill" like a Dorn (which I personally find kinda lame), she is definitely in the evil category. She doesn't enjoy the killing but she doesn't exactly have a conscience as far as I can tell (Haven't finished)
I see what you mean about Hexxat, so it's not really the killing part that makes her incompatible but the indiscriminate nature of it.
Dorn kills because he is angry, and that makes him unoriginal.
I kill because I am happy and because I don't tend to think like everyone else, alas, I'm maaaaaaad.
For me, the only ones that are truly evil are:
1) Sarevok, he insn't only the baddie that wanted to kill you in BG1, he don't likes murdering nor searches only for power, his actions make him evil IN his pursuit for power.
3) Edwin, he is another evil man, he uses the Law to accuse others, and mostly to accomplish HIS goals, he is a betrayer, but still being completely evil.
2) Eldoth, he might not seems evil but he IS evil, kidnapping people, blackmailing everyone including your mother (literally, if he had the chance, sure he would).
Honorable mentions in the Evil scale go to: (no order, GO CHAOS!!)\
Viconia, Korgan, Xzar and Montaron, Ignus, the Practical Incarnation, a truly Evil BG PC (most people running evil have 17 REP and high CHA, with a party with neutral monkeys in the middle).
Kagain is pretty much the one evil NPC I'd take in a good party other than perhaps Viconia. I've taken Korgan for a bit but I always kill him