How do you feel about Shar-Teel's weapon profs?
SharGuidesMyHand
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Overall, I think that the devs did a good job of transitioning from the broader weapon categories of BG1 to the more specific ones of BG2. But Shar-Teel's case is one that raises some questions and eyebrows, since the devs obviously decided to do a bit of experimenting with her.
Personally, I'm torn on what to think. On one hand, we now have a high strength NPC who can effectively wield the dagger of venom, and an evil (non-ranger) duel wielder. On the other hand, it could easily be argued that the points are too widely dispersed, and undermine the ability to give her extra "+"s in any one weapon, which is supposed to be one of the main advantages to a fighter.
If you don't like Shar-Teel's weapon profs, how would you have preferred to see them distributed?
EDIT: For the record, here is how Shar-Teel's profs are currently distributed.
+ long swords
+ daggers
++ dual wielding
with an added + in crossbows if you get her at a higher level.
In the original BG1, she started off with ++ each in large and small swords, with additional +s added to "missile weapons" at higher levels.
Personally, I'm torn on what to think. On one hand, we now have a high strength NPC who can effectively wield the dagger of venom, and an evil (non-ranger) duel wielder. On the other hand, it could easily be argued that the points are too widely dispersed, and undermine the ability to give her extra "+"s in any one weapon, which is supposed to be one of the main advantages to a fighter.
If you don't like Shar-Teel's weapon profs, how would you have preferred to see them distributed?
EDIT: For the record, here is how Shar-Teel's profs are currently distributed.
+ long swords
+ daggers
++ dual wielding
with an added + in crossbows if you get her at a higher level.
In the original BG1, she started off with ++ each in large and small swords, with additional +s added to "missile weapons" at higher levels.
- How do you feel about Shar-Teel's weapon profs?46 votes
- I like having an NPC with unique and offbeat profs47.83%
- WTF?? They totally ruined them!!!10.87%
- I'm torn on what to think23.91%
- Your results. Give them to me. Now.17.39%
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Also her original BG1 proficiencies were
Level 2
Large Swords **
Small Swords **
Level 4
Large Swords **
Small Swords **
Missile Weapons *
Level 6
Large Swords **
Missile Weapons **
Small Swords **
As for the topic at hand none of the options in the poll work for me.
The direction they took with Shar-Teel gives you a choice over what weapons you want her to specialize in. She is now one of the few warrior NPC's that start with any points in two-weapon style (and she is the only one who can get mastery with a weapon while having ** in two-weapon style). Apart from the differences in her strength (compared to Minsc) her proficiency with a weapon is the same as Minsc's is when it comes to dual wielding (at the lowest level he starts with only * in maces and Kivan doesn't start with proficiency in any one handed weapon).
Given the much more restrictive weapon proficiency choices provided in BG2 compared to BG1 I think they made the right call when it came to her proficiencies.
At thief level 4 and 8 she gets her third and fourth pip in the weapon of choice. Very deadly.
With her very aggressive personality, high dexterity and good strength, dual wielding makes sense. I hated how Tutu made every warrior a dualer. Made no sense for many. But Shar should be a dual wielder. Her getting crossbows partly bothers me because so does Dorn, and partly because she ignores specialization.
Personally, I think giving one of each is there to offer versatility... you get input! She specializes in what is convinient. So I think its cool.
I wish she could dual to Mage though, like her daddy dearest. I also wish she could have had character developement. Most BG1 npcs arent really that fleshed out, but Shar-Teel has serious potential for an interesting character.
Kagain was equally moronic, but I did use him a couple times in Tutu... with proficiencies changed. The man is aproaching genius level intellect, but he is trying to dw AXES at level 1?! I used him as an archer once, with the dex gauntlets and halberd prof, made more sense than him dwing ffs.
Clearly some Drizzt fans out there, eh? *rolls eyes*
Shar-Teel is great, but her stats/profs have always been stupid. Why is she so much stronger than all the other fighting women... she's nearly as strong as Minsc! Unless she's a freak of nature like Brienne of Tarth, she should have 16 strength max, but higher constitution. She's tough and keeps up with the men but will never match them in raw strength when it comes to fighting...
They should have given her average stats but a very nice Barbarian Rage ability... Could call it Bloody Rage, and it only happens once a month.
I gave Khalid Longsword and Longbow proficiencies. He was my archer/tank.
1) It's a fantasy game, realism has nothing to do with it.
2) Shar-Teel is the typical Amazonian woman. It even says so in her bio. She's supposed to be really strong.
3) Brienne is not a freak. Not all women need to be skinny. Warriors need to work out.
4) Who says that she can never match men? And Brienne or Shar-Teel?
5) Another warrior with Rage would be absolutely boring. And an once per month ability is beyond garbage.
I'm going to ask nicely, but please take your sexist comments somewhere else. Please and thank you
Suddenly I'm a bad guy for mentioning realism and making a joke? Really people, don't get your knickers in a twist. I'm right about the realism part but talking about that seems to upset some people... actually talking about anything seems to upset some people on this forum.
Shar-Teel and Alora are my favourite NPCs, and my favourite character to play is FEMALE gnome... So I'm hardly sexist or all about realism. Search my older posts and you'll probably see me saying so.
BTW. Brienne is a freak, look up the definition. And why would a special rage ability be boring? The only other one I can think of right now Minsc's, and if you had Minsc you probably wouldn't need Shar-Teel.
Perhaps Shar-Teel has higher testosterone levels than other women, so that explains her rougher features and strong physical strength.
Perhaps she's been training since she was really young and her body developed naturally to it.
We should also notice that she's the ONLY amazonian-type NPC in the whole series. (Hexxat doesn't count).
Perhaps not coincidentally, she had Longbow proficiency and high DEX, like the typical Amazons.
Regarding strength: women might weaker than men on average, but that doesn't mean that an individual women can't be stronger than most men. Shar-Teel just happens to be an exceptionally strong women.
So anyways I guess what I'm trying to say is that regardless of the direction they took someone wasn't going to be happy.
@TheGraveDigger Whether you're right or not, (which I'm not going any further into) it's the way you presented your opinion that caused us to respond.
Usually females had worse physical stats but better mental stats.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Races_(Oblivion)