Crazy Ideas
Drakar
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I wanted to start a discussion of bold, risky but possibly fruitful ventures.
WHAT IF, you dual-classed your mage at 18 into rogue? THAT would be interesting. But man, starting from level 1 (THEN AGAIN, in BG2 leveling will not take long for 1-7 since you get much more exp throughout the game, but it isn't much for higher levels). Instead of rogue-to-mage, you can get one level 9 spell, a distant list of spells and by the time your rogue reaches 19 you can be equipped with a POWERFUL list of spells and some powerful rogue attributes. Sure, it'll take a massively long time, but at least it won't take as long as leveling a pure-class mage to 31. I think, although you lose some of the benefits of mage power, you can eventually have a rogue with its HLAs and some magic to boot. BUT in bg2, it is a risky venture. And some might resort to power-gaming and import into a new game or black pits and level up that way before importing back into the original save. Which is disappointing if you do so, but I wouldn't blame them entirely.
Also, Mixing a Wizard Slayer with thief. Sadly, you can't use equipment that would provide good sneaky boosts, but the magical resistance can help make up for the thief's inability to use really good armor, and if you specialize the thief in hide in shadows and move silently, you can possibly make a great backstabber, especially against mages. This is assuming it is possible (haven't tried).
If you have ideas besides dual-classing, I'd like to hear them.
WHAT IF, you dual-classed your mage at 18 into rogue? THAT would be interesting. But man, starting from level 1 (THEN AGAIN, in BG2 leveling will not take long for 1-7 since you get much more exp throughout the game, but it isn't much for higher levels). Instead of rogue-to-mage, you can get one level 9 spell, a distant list of spells and by the time your rogue reaches 19 you can be equipped with a POWERFUL list of spells and some powerful rogue attributes. Sure, it'll take a massively long time, but at least it won't take as long as leveling a pure-class mage to 31. I think, although you lose some of the benefits of mage power, you can eventually have a rogue with its HLAs and some magic to boot. BUT in bg2, it is a risky venture. And some might resort to power-gaming and import into a new game or black pits and level up that way before importing back into the original save. Which is disappointing if you do so, but I wouldn't blame them entirely.
Also, Mixing a Wizard Slayer with thief. Sadly, you can't use equipment that would provide good sneaky boosts, but the magical resistance can help make up for the thief's inability to use really good armor, and if you specialize the thief in hide in shadows and move silently, you can possibly make a great backstabber, especially against mages. This is assuming it is possible (haven't tried).
If you have ideas besides dual-classing, I'd like to hear them.
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Also been curious if a highish level Avenger or Shapeshifter to Fighter could work. I think you'd get 1 HLA iirc for druid.
Wizard Slayer-> Thief is actually the almost only option how to play a Wizard Slayer effectively (The kit, as it is. Without mods)
I remember someone trying the Shapeshifter->Fighter dual at lvl 13 but the experience was a bit awkward.
Avenger->Fighter...pretty meh in my opinion.
Actually usable and interesting combo like this is Swashbuckler->Fighter (Basically an AC/THAC0 powerhouse, with low HP)
Also, I've noticed Minsc is able to fill tank, DPS, and ranged roles quite well. So, while optimized for two-handed, he can technically be dual-wield AND longbow.
In other news, Priest of Talos. Yep.
OP: That'a sort of masochism... or spirit of sacrifice, depending on how you look at it: masochism because playing something like this will hurt you really bad; spirit of sacrifice because you'll sacrifice yourself in the name of the will to share the knowledge of your dramatic experience with us. ;p
Mage to anything is just plain weird. If you COULD go mage to kensai, it could actually work. You'd get defence boosts, ability to use scrolls, and the ability to use a few defense spells. Optimal? Maybe not, but you'd be a very, very effective fighter in ToB.
Regular insane idea though: Skald solo. Rely on summons!
But yeah, if one could pull off a Mage to Fighter or Thief they could potentially wield VERY powerful spells and VERY powerful weapons. Though, they'd have to be wearing no armor in order to pull it off, which means you better have the THAC0 and damage to kill them before they kill you.
1) By dual classing at level 15 you are dual classing before you get access to either level 8 or level 9 spells (Horrid Wilting, Time Stop, Improved Alacrity, Wish, etc).
2) By the time you get your cleric levels back you would have had access to level 8/9 mage spells (along at least one HLA) had you stayed as a single class mage. This would make you way more powerful than what you would get as a dual class mage 15 -> cleric.
3) Cleric HLA's are pretty meh and you wouldn't get access to them until much later
4) By going mage to cleric instead of cleric to mage you miss out on a bunch of extra health from levels 1-9.
I mean sure there are a few upsides but overall it would be pretty crazy to do.
I remember the first time I thought about it all I could say was: "IMPOSSIBRU!"
But as it turned out, it IS possible, and our @bbear has succeeded (see http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/29615/is-it-possible-to-solo-level-1-the-bg-saga#latest)
I still think this idea is crazy.