Polymorph, Flesh to Stone and Disintegrate?

MWO

Anyone using these spells (Polymorph other, Feeblemind, Flesh to Stone, Disintegrate, Finger of Death etc.)? How do they work in lategame?

It's quite obvious that you'll need an Greater Malison before casting these spells. I haven't tried them out in the enhanced editions, but reading the description it seems they pretty much instantly kill its target.

Regards

JuliusBorisov

I don't often use Flesh to Stone and Disintegrate because I don't want to lose enemy's items.

The Finger of Death spell, though, is one of my favourite. It's good to cast Doom, then Greater Malison and then Finger of Death. Very often it results in a sudden win. It's one of the ways of dealing with dragons and powerful humanoids, even in ToB.

Polymorph other and Feeblemind may be good too. Feeblemind/Polymorph other are available much earlier and don't use up a spell slot that could be filled with a Mordekainen's sword.

But to me, it's really more about aesthetics than anything else. You point your finger and kill the target!

In general, my attitude towards win/save spells is that they can only be cast after Doom+Greater Malison combination.

Gallowglass

The trouble with Flesh to Stone is that it petrifies your enemy's loot as well as your enemy. Similarly, Disintegrate often disintegrates the enemy's loot. Therefore I avoid these spells.

Finger of Death is great, it's one of the go-to spells which is always worth trying. Yes, it works better if you Greater Malison the enemy first (or if you've run out of GMal, then Doom also helps).

Feeblemind can be effective (primarily for stopping mages), but I usually find more valuable uses for my level 5 spell slots (such as Breach and Chaos), so I don't often use Feeblemind.

Polymorph Other, hmmm ... I remember once taking down Sarevok with a Polymorph at the end of BG1, but generally I've hardly ever used it, again because I have higher-priority uses for my level 4 spell slots (such as Stoneskin and Greater Malison).

ryuken87

They're decent spells. I'm not too fussed about loot because with metagaming we all know who has the stuff worth having. I quite like using Imprisonment on beholders and such as it's the easiest way to get rid of them.

DreadKhan

Do they give xp if you Imprison them? Also, isnt that... MEAN?!

Tolben

Finger of Death is useful throughout the entire sage. As others have said, Flesh to Stone and Disintegrate lose some of their value due to the risk factor attached to them. Polymorph other is a fun spell, and Feeblemind is a spell that I almost always use since it essentially disables enemies.

Mathsorcerer

DreadKhan said:

Do they give xp if you Imprison them? Also, isnt that... MEAN?!

Yes, you do. Once that happens, you can then cast Freedom to bring them back and kill them again *just to prove that you can*. You still earn xp for killing them this way--double the reward!

kungfuhobbit

F2S and Disintegrate destroying loot rendered them useless imo, leaving big hole in level6/7 powerful spells
Thankfully can mod with SetAIScript so they retain the loot tho http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/23292/modding-flesh-to-stone-to-drop-inventory

MWO

Thanks for the comments. However, I'm playing RPG-style and hence I don't really care about the loot. That's not an issue for me, as long as questitems arn't destroyed. :-)

elminster

kungfuhobbit said:

F2S and Disintegrate destroying loot rendered them useless imo, leaving big hole in level6/7 powerful spells
Thankfully can mod with SetAIScript so they retain the loot tho http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/23292/modding-flesh-to-stone-to-drop-inventory

Or you can just go into the settings and turn off gore. That does it as well

Erg

elminster said:

Or you can just go into the settings and turn off gore. That does it as well

Or, even better, you can just use the original (non enhanced) games plus TobEx, and have both the gore and the loot