Stone Golems Immune to +2 Maces - SCS or EE

AHF

Just completed the thieve's guild quest line. On the second floor of the mage's house, the two stone golems were immune to +2 maces and were vulnerable to a +2 short sword. (Short version - instead of my fighters killing them, Jan ended up taking them down). Is this a SCS change or an Enhanced Edition change? Many thanks in advance!

(Edited to focus on +2 maces rather than all blunt weapons).

Grombag

Not sure about the level, but stone golems are not supposed to be more or less vulnerable to blunt weapons (clay golems are). I think stone golems should be able to hit by +2 weapons at least.
Which weapons did you use on the stone golems and what was the result?

AHF

Stone golems being vulnerable to all magic weapons of sufficient enchantment was always my experience, @Grombag. The weapons that were listed as ineffective were:

Krotan's Skullcrusher (Mace +2)
Mauler's Arm (Mace +2)
Flail +1
Mace +2

They were ultimately knocked off with Arbane's Sword (Short Sword +2)

CField17

I think stone golems have to be hit by slashing weapons

Jarrakul

In my experience, everything that's at least +2 works on them. I have no idea why that's not what you're seeing. Maybe an SCS thing, as I haven't gotten to BG2 yet on my SCS playthrough.

Glidderdust

In my most recent game, Anomen's +1 mace had no effect on those stone golems. I'm pretty sure he was able to hit the stone golems in Firgraag's lair once I upgraded him to +2 weapons.

AHF

3 of the 4 weapons I experienced were +2 so I don't think enchantment was the issue. Likewise, the one weapon that did work was +2.

AHF

OK - I just tested several other weapons against the golems with fine results. However, both +2 maces still yielded: "Weapon Ineffective."

+4 quarterstaff works.
+5 mace works.
+4 mace works.
+3 mace works.
+2 flail works.
+2 quarterstaff works.
+2 shortsword works.

+2 maces don't.

Still not sure why.

CrevsDaak

Iron Golems are (and should if by some vanilla bug they aren't) immune to +2 weapons. They can only be hit with +3 or better (it's from the 2nd Edition AD&D rules, also: http://www.lomion.de/cmm/golem1.php).

Edit: when title and topic is about Stone Golems my reply shouldn't be about Iron Golems... I am so stupid.

kjeron

Krotan's Skullcrusher +2 has an enchantment level of "0" in BG2EE. As one of the items available from importing from a BGEE game, where it does have an enchantment level of "2", this is likely a bug with that specific item.

AHF

kjeron said:

Krotan's Skullcrusher +2 has an enchantment level of "0" in BG2EE. As one of the items available from importing from a BGEE game, where it does have an enchantment level of "2", this is likely a bug with that specific item.

There are 3 different +2 maces it applied with.

The Skullcrusher mace, the Mauler's Arm and a generic +2 mace (from the thieve's guild in the docks).

smeagolheart

Is this reported in the right place?

AHF

I thought it was an intentional change with SCS or an update that I had missed that applied more broadly to blunt damage. I am reporting it in the bug area since no one seems to know about this.

http://forum.baldursgate.com/discussion/38966/stone-golems-immune-to-2-maces-rayic-gethras-home?new=1

AHF

It appears this is a SCS issue as Gate70 confirmed in vanilla the Mauler's Arm and Generic +2 mace both work properly. As noted, the Skullcrusher Mace isn't considered +2 for enchantment under any scenario unless this gets corrected in a patch.