Killing Imoen Before Leaving Candlekeep
Gloomfrost
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If you time it right just before clicking on Gorion to leave you can one shot kill Imoen.
"Heya It's Me Imo---THUNK!!!!--OHHHHH!!!!-gurggle....."
I did this one time as a Paladin with ** in Bows and upon returning to Candlekeep i think Chapter 5 or so the Gatekeeper was hostile and since he has 100% MR its impossible to charm him. Literally no way to get in, had to restart.
Does that make me a mean Paladin or just a prank playing older Baal Spawn Brother?
"Heya It's Me Imo---THUNK!!!!--OHHHHH!!!!-gurggle....."
I did this one time as a Paladin with ** in Bows and upon returning to Candlekeep i think Chapter 5 or so the Gatekeeper was hostile and since he has 100% MR its impossible to charm him. Literally no way to get in, had to restart.
Does that make me a mean Paladin or just a prank playing older Baal Spawn Brother?
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What I would call a prank is watching Viconia at the mercy of mob about to burn her at the stake, then ruining the mob's fun by killing Viconia myself!
But to start as a paladin in Candlekeep and then go bad literally before leaving the starting gate is a bit of a logical leap.
To become a paladin requires dedicated training. Notwithstanding that there is no such order within the walls of Candlekeep. But even if a knight regularly visited and trained the PC within the keep, the mentor's order must determine if the knight is Good and Lawful before accepting him.
It's hard to envision an evil character being able to pull off a con at being Good, and then, bam, "fooled ya! I'm really evil!"
I guess Gorion still might try to keep his evil ward out of the hands of Sarevok. But if he's already gone so horribly evil like that then why not just let Sarevok kill him?
Just trying to think through how playing a Blackguard is supposed to work from an RP vantage, given the story.
On one of my 'mucking around' playthroughs, I used the ctrl-Q cheat, which adds NPCs to your party. I did this to the Imoen in Candlekeep to see what would happen when you meet her again outside of Candlekeep, and found that this Imoen has completely different stats, and although looking like a thief, it said her class was a mage! What's more, when I went out of Candlekeep and had the whole Gorion death scene, another Imoen walked up to me at the beginning of chapter one, and so I had 2 Imoens in my party!
Also, if I'm not mistaken, if you kill Imoen inside Candlekeep, she'll still meet you after Gorion's death, despite just being killed. If this happens to other characters, they stay dead for the rest of the game, I believe - one, I accidentally killed Cernd, and when I got to the Druids' Grove to 'meet' him, all I found was his corpse on the floor.
So really Gloomfrost, you did the right thing by killing the imposter Imoen - who knows, it could have even been a doppleganger! Or maybe you killed the real Imoen, and the one which accompanies you through your travels is actually a doppleganger! It would explain why she can be resurrected, despite being 'Bhaalspawn'…
Despite his hard work, that rage began to manifest itself towards those who did injustice in the world. Instead of unnecessarily hating others, he instead had a reason: they were unlawful. This resulted in him seething for days about even the smallest slights that broke order.
When he saw Imoen, who constantly disturbed the order that he tried so hard to protect, all of this rage became focused on one single individual. This was the first step into CHARNAME becoming a Blackguard, though he had not heard of them at this time.
Instead he continued to live this lie that he was a paragon of Law and Goodness. Deep down he knew what he had done was wrong and it ate away at him throughout his travels. He was a failure. The people closest to him growing up had died. When he returned later to find the guards hostile it was more than he could take.
He then immediately wished to go back and change that instance where he killed Imoen through "reloading" and he abandoned his current life in order to make things right once again.
I suppose that Gorion could still want to protect him, deceived that he is true blue (or believing that good will win out if Gorion picks up on his ward's inner struggle).
But I suppose the same issue applies not just to Blackguards but also to any other evil alignment and class combo. How is it that Gorion protects and nurtures an evil assassin, for example?
I've heard of "spare the rod" but this is ridiculous!
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That said, my pallies always wield melee weapons, and eschew the bow. Just my personal preference.
Think of Crécy and Agincourt; the flower of French chivalry massacred by those dastardly English peasants with their longbows, clearly not cricket!
edit - of course I say "you can expect," I don't mean "this is the way they must be played!"