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The Final Battle

xPersonOfChaosxxPersonOfChaosx Member Posts: 21
I am about to head off through the Thieves' Maze to kill Sarevok and I was wondering two things: firstly, what are the best spells and objects to have on you for the fight; and secondly, whether you can rest anywhere once you've entered the maze. I was just curious, so if you can help, your opinion would be appreciated! :)
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  • DaevelonDaevelon Member Posts: 605
    You can rest wherever you want, even in very creepy places (you will see).
  • BigfishBigfish Member Posts: 367

    I think you can rest in the maze. If not, you can rest in the area immediately after.

    When I'm buffing, I'll usually end up chugging all my high end strength potions, potions of speed, and fire resistance potions and try to space everyone out so they don't all get hit with nasty stuff at once. Half of that will then go to waste because someone will dispel the group.

    One strategy is to drop a bunch of web spells while your front line is equipped with Spider's Bane and/or rings of free action and nail Sarevok with a Greater Malison and Doom so that he MIGHT fail his ridiculously good save. Scrolls of Magic Protection would also be useful, though they negate any potions you drank. The things to watch out for are Sarevok hitting like a truck, Angelo peppering you with Explosive Arrows, and Samaj doing normal wizard hijinks. You can lure them out one by one if you like and that makes the encounter far more manageable.
  • OlvynChuruOlvynChuru Member Posts: 3,075
    You should probably change the thread title so it doesn't spoil who the final boss is.

    Also, about what you were asking, once you get to the final battle, it's best to have each of your warriors drink a Potion of Storm Giant Strength and put on an Oil of Speed. Anyone who's going to go into the fray should drink a Potion of Magic Shielding, which protects them from a lot of the hazards in the final battle and doesn't remove any of their other buffs.

    You can rest in the maze without being interrupted by enemies. I think you can rest in the area after it without getting interrupted by enemies either.
  • gattberserkgattberserk Member Posts: 190
    Give ur best fighter a protection from magic and buff him with all the buff potion (potion of heroism, storm giant str etc).


    As for the rest of the pt, especially the range one, give them the potion that make them immune to 5th lvl spell and lower. Once u do that everything seem to be pretty easy. however do note that the potion will dispel all the buff u had made to ur party
  • SvarSvar Member Posts: 157
    Make sure everyone is hasted, otherwise it will be very difficult to keep up with him, especially if you're looking to keep all your friends alive as well. I will definitely second @Bigfish 's spell recs. If you can get Sarevok caught in a web, you can just stand at a safe distance and pelt him with explosive arrows and other vicious ranged attacks until he perishes. Summons could be very helpful keeping his buddies busy for a bit as well.
  • RaduzielRaduziel Member Posts: 4,714
    edited February 2016
    I actually soloed this battle with my Fighter/Assassin using the following:

    Trap (as much as you can).

    Lure Sarevok in the trap (wear the Cheetah boots) using an Arrow of Detonation (so Tazok will reveal himself). Potion of Invisibility. Don't kill him yet, there's more XP to be gained.

    Oil of Speed. Potion of Storm Giant Strength.

    Poison Weapon. Backstab the archer. Potion of Invisibility. Let him to die.

    Arrow of Dispelling in the wizard. As soon as his protections goes down, change to some Arrow of Piercing. The previous poison should still be active. If it's not the case reactivate it. Stop shooting the wizard as soon as you see him poisoned. He's dead already.

    Potion of Invisibility. Backstab Tazok with Poison. Get away from him and start using Arrow of Biting. Shoot Tazok down. Make sure he's dead.

    Now it's only family business. The trap(s) should have hurted Sarevok really bad. Keep away from him, shoot and run like the chicken you are (hey! You don't want to end up like Gorion, do you?) or you can use more Potion of Invisibility to keep backstabbing him using the Staff of Striking (I know I did).

    Long history short you'll need:

    Set Snares (as much as you can)

    Oil of Speed (2 just in case)
    Potion of Storm Giant Strength (2 just in case)
    Potion of Invisibility (3 obligatory, 5 just in case)

    Poison Weapon

    Dagger of Venom (optional)
    Boots of Speed
    Protector of the Dryads (low speed factor is crucial in this battle for hit and run) or any other bow (not recommended)

    Arrow of Dispelling (as much as you can)
    Arrow of Biting (as much as you can)
    Arrow of Piercing (as much as you can)
    Arrow of Detonation (at least 3)

    To backstab Sarevok to death you'll need:

    Potion of Heroism (optional)
    Potion of Invulnerability (optional)
    Potion of Invisibility (as many as possible)
    Potion of Storm Giant Strength (just in case the previous one loses it's effect during the battle)
    Oil of Speed (just in case the previous one loses it's effect during the battle)
    Staff of Striking (recommended - or any other thief weapon)*

    * If you're using the Rogue Rebalancing Mode you should check "The Silent Blade" (aka Short Sword of Backstabbing), otherwise go with the Staff of Striking (even if you are not proficient with it)

    Did this and killed everyone in the room without getting a scratch.

    Good luck.
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  • sarevok57sarevok57 Member Posts: 5,975
    be very weary of angelo, he will start off with a remove magic ( or is it dispel magic?) and it will work without fail, my suggestion would be, have your archers use arrows of dispelling on him and rush him in quick and hard, if you nab him before you casts his spell, then he wont dispel all your pretty protections
  • brunardobrunardo Member Posts: 526
    Good advice fellow @sarevok57
  • RaduzielRaduziel Member Posts: 4,714
    edited February 2016
    I never, EVER, sell scrolls (except for Infravision and Find Familiar), potions and ammo.

    It's a little PTSD that my PnP DM imbued in me.

    And if you want to be a good Thief you need to be like Batman: have all kind of gadgets for the right occasion.

    Just made a test: Thieves, with UAI, are able to cast Find Familiar for a little HP Boost and another trick in the sleeve.
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  • gattberserkgattberserk Member Posts: 190
    lolien said:

    ^^*Sarevok giving advices how to defeat him*

    Look like Sarevok has really turned over a new leaf since he was revived in ToB
  • RaduzielRaduziel Member Posts: 4,714
    @FinnTheHuman

    I actually do this roleplay when I get back do recover myself after the battle in Undercity lol

    - Why are we retreating, CHARNAME?

    - Because Sarevok is expecting us now, not later. And we need a hot bath. Let him overthink about what we are planning to do, I've spread a lot of traps around the Temple just in case he decides to slip off.
  • xPersonOfChaosxxPersonOfChaosx Member Posts: 21
    Raduziel said:

    I actually soloed this battle with my Fighter/Assassin using the following:

    Trap (as much as you can).

    Lure Sarevok in the trap (wear the Cheetah boots) using an Arrow of Detonation (so Tazok will reveal himself). Potion of Invisibility. Don't kill him yet, there's more XP to be gained.

    Oil of Speed. Potion of Storm Giant Strength.

    Poison Weapon. Backstab the archer. Potion of Invisibility. Let him to die.

    Arrow of Dispelling in the wizard. As soon as his protections goes down, change to some Arrow of Piercing. The previous poison should still be active. If it's not the case reactivate it. Stop shooting the wizard as soon as you see him poisoned. He's dead already.

    Potion of Invisibility. Backstab Tazok with Poison. Get away from him and start using Arrow of Biting. Shoot Tazok down. Make sure he's dead.

    Now it's only family business. The trap(s) should have hurted Sarevok really bad. Keep away from him, shoot and run like the chicken you are (hey! You don't want to end up like Gorion, do you?) or you can use more Potion of Invisibility to keep backstabbing him using the Staff of Striking (I know I did).

    Long history short you'll need:

    Set Snares (as much as you can)

    Oil of Speed (2 just in case)
    Potion of Storm Giant Strength (2 just in case)
    Potion of Invisibility (3 obligatory, 5 just in case)

    Poison Weapon

    Dagger of Venom (optional)
    Boots of Speed
    Protector of the Dryads (low speed factor is crucial in this battle for hit and run) or any other bow (not recommended)

    Arrow of Dispelling (as much as you can)
    Arrow of Biting (as much as you can)
    Arrow of Piercing (as much as you can)
    Arrow of Detonation (at least 3)

    To backstab Sarevok to death you'll need:

    Potion of Heroism (optional)
    Potion of Invulnerability (optional)
    Potion of Invisibility (as many as possible)
    Potion of Storm Giant Strength (just in case the previous one loses it's effect during the battle)
    Oil of Speed (just in case the previous one loses it's effect during the battle)
    Staff of Striking (recommended - or any other thief weapon)*

    * If you're using the Rogue Rebalancing Mode you should check "The Silent Blade" (aka Short Sword of Backstabbing), otherwise go with the Staff of Striking (even if you are not proficient with it)

    Did this and killed everyone in the room without getting a scratch.

    Good luck.

    Curious- how do you actually set traps? Are there specific spells or abilities required?
  • RaduzielRaduziel Member Posts: 4,714
    edited February 2016
    @xPersonOfChaosx Both Set Snares and Poison Weapon are special abilities. The first one every Thief obtains, the later only Assassins.

    And you can make it even easier if you use Poison Weapon before the Arrow of Detonation. Every caught in the blast radius will be poisoned. Learned this little trick with someone here in the forum (don't remember who to give the credits) and it should make the final battle way more light.

    I'll update this trend once I return to the final battle in my current run. Right now I'm doing ToSC, will return to Candlekeep soon.
  • GoturalGotural Member Posts: 1,229
    edited February 2016
    Poison Weapon works with every weapons, including Melf Minute Meteor, Arrows of Detonation (which will spread the poison on every targets hit). It even works with your bare hands.

    A Blackguard level 7 or more with Specialisation in Bows (**) using an Oil of Speed can literally kill the final boss and his henchmen in less than two rounds.

    Even if they make all their saves against Fireballs and Poisons, they will take an average of 60 damage per round, each of them.
  • abacusabacus Member Posts: 1,307

    Raduziel said:

    I actually soloed this battle with my Fighter/Assassin using the following:

    Trap (as much as you can).

    Lure Sarevok in the trap (wear the Cheetah boots) using an Arrow of Detonation (so Tazok will reveal himself). Potion of Invisibility. Don't kill him yet, there's more XP to be gained.

    Oil of Speed. Potion of Storm Giant Strength.

    Poison Weapon. Backstab the archer. Potion of Invisibility. Let him to die.

    Arrow of Dispelling in the wizard. As soon as his protections goes down, change to some Arrow of Piercing. The previous poison should still be active. If it's not the case reactivate it. Stop shooting the wizard as soon as you see him poisoned. He's dead already.

    Potion of Invisibility. Backstab Tazok with Poison. Get away from him and start using Arrow of Biting. Shoot Tazok down. Make sure he's dead.

    Now it's only family business. The trap(s) should have hurted Sarevok really bad. Keep away from him, shoot and run like the chicken you are (hey! You don't want to end up like Gorion, do you?) or you can use more Potion of Invisibility to keep backstabbing him using the Staff of Striking (I know I did).

    Long history short you'll need:

    Set Snares (as much as you can)

    Oil of Speed (2 just in case)
    Potion of Storm Giant Strength (2 just in case)
    Potion of Invisibility (3 obligatory, 5 just in case)

    Poison Weapon

    Dagger of Venom (optional)
    Boots of Speed
    Protector of the Dryads (low speed factor is crucial in this battle for hit and run) or any other bow (not recommended)

    Arrow of Dispelling (as much as you can)
    Arrow of Biting (as much as you can)
    Arrow of Piercing (as much as you can)
    Arrow of Detonation (at least 3)

    To backstab Sarevok to death you'll need:

    Potion of Heroism (optional)
    Potion of Invulnerability (optional)
    Potion of Invisibility (as many as possible)
    Potion of Storm Giant Strength (just in case the previous one loses it's effect during the battle)
    Oil of Speed (just in case the previous one loses it's effect during the battle)
    Staff of Striking (recommended - or any other thief weapon)*

    * If you're using the Rogue Rebalancing Mode you should check "The Silent Blade" (aka Short Sword of Backstabbing), otherwise go with the Staff of Striking (even if you are not proficient with it)

    Did this and killed everyone in the room without getting a scratch.

    Good luck.

    Curious- how do you actually set traps? Are there specific spells or abilities required?
    Thieves have Set Snare as a special ability (activated via the icon to the right of the HUD).

    You'll need to invest points in it as you level up. Around 75-100 points will allow you to set them reliably.
  • RaduzielRaduziel Member Posts: 4,714
    Just killed Sarevok once again. This time only killed him. It took about two minutes (Staff of Striking - Backstab - Potion of Invisibility - repeat).
  • Eadwyn_G8keeperEadwyn_G8keeper Member Posts: 541
    Is there a source cataloging locations and quantity available for the more exotic arrows ~ such as Piercing, Dispelling, Detonation, Biting. Want to make sure I don't come up short when they are REALLY needed.
  • RaduzielRaduziel Member Posts: 4,714
    Check up Sorcerous Sundries, High Hedge and Black Lilly (thieve's guild).

    They'll have all the arrows you need.
  • CaptRoryCaptRory Member Posts: 1,660
    Everyone is covering the boss fight. To get through the maze easily I cast Invisibility on my thief and have her disarm everything/scout the maze. That's just Standard Operating Procedure.
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