#17898 #18177 Thrown weapons should not add strength bonus to THAC0 when ranged

RumorsGuild

I was playing BG:EE and noticed that my strength mod was being added to thrown-weapon ranged to-hit rolls.

(As the Baldur's Gate: Mastering Melee etc. Manual says under Strength Modifiers, "A character's Strength can modify the die roll, altering both the chance to hit and the damage caused. This modifier is always applied to melee attacks. Certain missile weapons (throwing axes, throwing daggers, and slings) receive the character's Strength modifier to damage, but not to attack rolls." [p. 15])

Dee

We'll need a bit more information. Which weapon are you using? Do you have a saved game you can upload in a .zip file?

AstroBryGuy

@Dee - DAGG05, AX1H04, AX1H05. See the attached screenshots.

To recreate - Start a new game with Abdel, use CLUA Console to CreateItem DAGG05, AX1H04, AX1H05.

Notice the Strength Modification line in the THAC0 box.

AstroBryGuy

Followup: I looked at the ITM files in NearInfinity. All had flag 0 (Add Strength bonus) set in the ranged item ability header (see screenshot for example). Changing this to flag 2 (EE: Strength Damage Bonus) fixed the issue on the inventory screen.

AstroBryGuy

Followup 2:

IWDEE has the "EE: Strength Damage" flag set correct for throwing daggers and axes.

BG2EE has the "EE: Strength Damage" flag set for daggers, but no flag is set for throwing axes (neither flag 0 nor flag 2).

RumorsGuild

In BG2EE, the Dwarven Thrower (HAMM06.ITM) and Azuredge (AX1H10.ITM) both also need flag 2.

RumorsGuild

Also, in BG2EE, the throwing dagger Firetooth +3 (DAGG12.ITM) and the Boomerang Dagger +2 (DAGG11.ITM) have the Global Effect "Modify attacks per round" set to "1 attack per round" instead of 2.

Hurricane

Since the last patch, the strength damage for thrown weapons was made consistent in BG:EE and BGII:EE by various internal patches. All throwing axes, throwing hammers, and throwing daggers are using flag 2 now for their ranged ability. I'm tagging this thread with internal ticket numbers for BG:EE.

@RumorsGuild The Dwarven Thrower and Azuredge in BGII:EE are taken care of as part of https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/38335/11137-throwing-axes-and-throwing-hammers-should-add-strength-bonus-to-damage-when-ranged. As for Firetooth +3 and the Boomerang Dagger +2, they do have 2 attacks per round when you use them in game.