Does M’Khiin Grubdoubler have special race bonuses for being a goblin?

Blackorb

I might have missed this one but i have seen M’Khiin stats (str,dex etc) and i have seen the class description for shaman, but i haven't seen any information if her race (goblin) gives special race bonuses like other races which we cant pick for charname.
[spoiler] Haer Dalis tiefling 50% cold and magic cold resistance, 25% fire and magic fire resistance, 15% physical resistance . and Viconia drow 50 % magic resistance bg 1 65% magic resistance bg 2 not sure if correct but i think those were there racials xd [/ spoiler]

Kamigoroshi

According to AD&D's Complete Book of Humanoids, Goblins have the following racial traits:

Ability Score Adjustments:
-1 penalty to both Strength and Charisma.

Special Advantages:
- Infravision to 60 feet. Can detect new or unusual constructions in underground areas 25% of the time (1 or 2 on 1d8).
(- Other advantages included higher levels for Goblin Shamans and a list of their spell spheres. But neither of those things are implemented in the infinity engine.)

Special Disadvantages:
- Bright light hurts goblin eyes, giving them a -1 penalty to their attack rolls when in bright sunshine.

While I'm not sure about the daylight blindness (which Viconia and Baeloth should theoretically also have), I'd expect that beamdog would give M'Khiin at least the standard infravision.

( summoning @AlexT to shed some goblin-friendly light here )

Blackorb

That was a very Insightful post kamigoroshi thank you
Now lets wait very patiently for a dev to shed some goblin-friendly light on this subject haha

Jarrakul

That is some amazingly bad racial traits right there. You'd think they might get a racial bonus to Dex, at least, but I guess goblins are just bad.

AstroBryGuy

Jarrakul said:

That is some amazingly bad racial traits right there. You'd think they might get a racial bonus to Dex, at least, but I guess goblins are just bad.

Well, when your race is basically AD&D "cannon fodder", you can't expect much in the way of powerful bonuses.

Kamigoroshi

Well, the saving grace of Goblins in AD&D was that they could communicate with Worgs and Wolves alike. Kind of like a very limited telepathic bond. This made them at least more useful than Kobolds.

And let's not forget the player maddening Nilbogs. Just imagine all the frustration if Neera's Wild Magic could change M'Khiin into one of those walking paradoxes. I sure as hell would play such a mod!

Blackorb

i would have being kind of sad if they were worse then kobolds, power to the goblins!

Edit: Question @Kamigoroshi you made me curious i could not find the stats for kobolds (only 3.5e)
Do you know were i can find information about them for 2e?

Kamigoroshi

@Blackorb You can find playable Kobolds, together with all other Goblinoids and similar races, within AD&D's The Complete Book of Humanoids.

As comparison to Goblins, here are the Kobold's racial traits.

Ability Score Adjustments:
-1 penalty to both Strength and Constitution.

Special Advantages:
- Infravision to 60 feet.
- Unless Kobold characters display special capabilities, intelligent and powerful opponents are likely to attack them last of all.

Special Disadvantages:
- Bright light hinders Kobolds, making it difficult for them to see. When forced to fight in sunlit conditions or the equivalent, Kobolds receive a -1 penalty to their attack rolls.
- Gnomes have a +1 bonus when attacking Kobolds.

Blackorb

Thank you @Kamigoroshi and WOW the kobold is even worse then i thought it would be xd

- Gnomes have a +1 bonus when attacking Kobolds. i lol'd a little

Jarrakul

Hey now, that "attacked last" ability is kind of awesome. Just for that, I'd play a kobold well before I played a goblin.

Grammarsalad

There was a sourcebook, the Orcs of Thar, that made subhuman races playable. And, both goblins and kobolds were pretty good (in their way). I think kobolds got a +2 to dexterity, which was a huge deal back then. I don't have the book anymore, so I can't give specifics, unfortunately

ValamirCleaver

http://www.dmsguild.com/product/132809/GAZ10-The-Orcs-of-Thar-Basic

Grammarsalad

Look at this:

"...the supplement also includes two more classes: the shaman and the wicca. It also has rules for partial armor and defective weapons — both especial problems for humanoids, but probably of wider use in D&D games."

Bold mine. Also, I remember those armor rules. It was pretty fun stuff