Can a thief with UAI use non-thief weapons?

Moonheart

... like a warhammer for exemple?

DetectiveMittens

Yes. Although they will not be very proficient.

Moonheart

For what I have in mind, it is not a problem.

Lord_Tansheron

UAI lets you use anything short of character-specific gear (i.e. no wielding Keldorn's sword or Jan's goggles).

It will also unlock all weapon and weapon style proficiencies, so while you cannot put points into non-Thief weapons before UAI, you *can* do so after.

Note: it very rarely comes up, but if you level a Thief to UAI and then dual it, UAI will remain active even while your Thief class is inactive.

joluv

I've noticed that a Thief with UAI but inadequate intelligence can't use the Golem Manuals. I don't know whether or not that's considered a bug.

Jaheiras_Witness

Not a bug, you still need to meet stat requirements to use equipment. You can also use character specific gear if your stats are equivalent or better to the normal user's (you might have to be same race too).

moody_mage

Just be aware you can only backstab with thief weapons.

Lord_Tansheron

decado said:

Just be aware you can only backstab with thief weapons.

Very true.

An easy, simple check is: "can a lvl1 Thief use this?" - if the answer is Yes, you can backstab with it. Otherwise you can't, even if you can use it.

Moonheart

Nah, don't worry, I do not plan to attack with the weapon I have in mind anyway

joluv

Jaheiras_Witness said:

Not a bug, you still need to meet stat requirements to use equipment. You can also use character specific gear if your stats are equivalent or better to the normal user's (you might have to be same race too).

Got it. I think the character-specific thing was changed for EE, though. I just tested it with Firecam Full Plate.

sansserif

Yes, my Hexxat was able to use Carsomyr.

lunar

Does UAI also unlock proficiencies for non-thief weapons? I...never noticed that. Is this a new thing brought by 2.0?

Arunsun

joluv said:

Jaheiras_Witness said:

Not a bug, you still need to meet stat requirements to use equipment. You can also use character specific gear if your stats are equivalent or better to the normal user's (you might have to be same race too).

Got it. I think the character-specific thing was changed for EE, though. I just tested it with Firecam Full Plate.

Yeah it used to work in vanilla but it is no longer the case. However the character-specific items still appear as equippable in the inventory (they do not have that red overlay), but when you try it does not work.

GrimLefourbe

You can wield crom faeyr in your offhand and backstab with 25 str with your main hand I think, but you need to make sure the attack is with the main hand and not the offhand so you will not try to backstab with the hammer that you have 0 proficiencies with.

Quique

Isn't backstabing always done with the main hand weapon?

Insultion

Quique said:

Isn't backstabing always done with the main hand weapon?

I'm honestly unsure.

Sceptenar

Let me guess, you want to wield Crom Feyhr for the 25 strength stat boost?

Moonheart

Nope I have something much more original in mind...

RobertMcDuck

What exactly do you have in mind? Please tell us.

Moonheart

Equip The Brick, sneak behind the ennemy spellcasters, staying hidden while they enjoy their 10% of wild surge during the fight.

JuliusBorisov

Quique said:

Isn't backstabing always done with the main hand weapon?

The backstab is made with the next attack. If that next attack happens with the main hand, it'll use the main hand weapon. If that next attack happens with the second hand, it'll use the weapon in the second hand for the backstab.