Wasn't happy with the way the controversy was handled, however my main reason for not buying are the bugs and the new UI. Waiting for an update to squish the bugs and hopefully offer the ability to use the old UI.
Wasn't happy with the way the controversy was handled, however my main reason for not buying are the bugs and the new UI. Waiting for an update to squish the bugs and hopefully offer the ability to use the old UI.
My friend, have you seen the new non beta UI? It is vastly improved and I like it a lot.
What controversy? The amount of circlejerk people are getting out of this amazes me. People online thinking they are allowed to threaten developers is the real issue and should make some parents doubt the kids they raised.
I really don't care about the controversy. I actually find it hilarious to read how people get so upset about two sentences in a game Nevertheless, I am able to make up my own mind after I have played the game almost done! ^^
No, but in all fairness: I bought the game on launch (or shortly before that), without the controversy being so much as raised yet, making my vote a pretty much insignificant one. HOWEVER: I'm certain I would have given Beamdog the benefit of doubt and bought it anyway.
No controversy could have been big/strong enough to keep me from getting the game. Maybe, just maybe, if I felt personally offended and/or the game would have been the buggy mess some (obviously biased) reviewers made it out to be, I'd have asked for a refund. The way that it is, some people acted with good intentions but lacked somewhat in farsight.
The initial reports had me worried. I searched online for some "offending parts" and those had me quite worried about the writing quality of the game. It wasn't about 'what' they put in the game but 'how' it was implemented. I personally would love more characters with an unusual gender/sexuality/etc in the game but they have to come out of the setting itself, not taken from the real world and tacked on to make some sort of statement. I kept looking for more examples but after a long while it seemed all the fuss was about those same few events. I tried to find out more about the game itself but kept running into the same controversy articles. Ultimately I went to youtube and looked at the beginning of a let's play and the game seems fine. The broad brush people paint the entire game with is about a handful of details.
I put it on my steam wishlist, cause I'm still playing through BG1EE and BG2EE. I hope lessons have been learnt by the writers/developper to think more about the lore of the setting and that there will be more BG content in the future.
My friend, have you seen the new non beta UI? It is vastly improved and I like it a lot.
I only recall seeing the UI that was teased in the build-up to release. If this has changed could you possibly link it?
I will have to admit to being a bit of a troglodyte over the new UI. The UI in Baldur's Gate 2 is still my favourite game UI of all time, thus I am fairly reluctant to give it up.
My friend, have you seen the new non beta UI? It is vastly improved and I like it a lot.
I only recall seeing the UI that was teased in the build-up to release. If this has changed could you possibly link it?
I will have to admit to being a bit of a troglodyte over the new UI. The UI in Baldur's Gate 2 is still my favourite game UI of all time, thus I am fairly reluctant to give it up.
My friend, have you seen the new non beta UI? It is vastly improved and I like it a lot.
I only recall seeing the UI that was teased in the build-up to release. If this has changed could you possibly link it?
I will have to admit to being a bit of a troglodyte over the new UI. The UI in Baldur's Gate 2 is still my favourite game UI of all time, thus I am fairly reluctant to give it up.
Here is a short of the Record screen, I think that was something people disliked the most?
No the controversy has hardened my attitude and heart against people that associate with or sympathize with GG. I got nothing for them.
Can I get to dislike the let-me-teach-you-good-morals attitude from (some parts of) the text in the game, without getting associated with GG?
In other words: is it possible, for a gamer to think there is a problem, without that gamer immediately landing himself on the "bad team", in your mind?
@shawne If you ever change your mind about wanting to try the expansion, let me know and I'll buy you a copy. (I can understand wanting to wait for reviews and bug fixes, though.)
The so-called "controversy" is only a small part of the game that can be ignored. An NPC there, some minor dialogue there.
In the end, I only care if the gameplay and story is good.
As for the UI, my only complaint about it is the Record screen, as I pointed out in an older thread. I don't like that AC is buried in Combat Stats instead of making it plainly visible when you hit R.
HP, XP, AC, THAC0 are the most important stuff for a Character Sheet for most classes and characters. The Information and Combat Stats tabs need to be merged and remove redundancies, asap.
Right now, it's a mess of information. Prioritization, tidying it up, removing redundancies, make it intuitive.
The only people I can see being massively unhappy about this at this point are the SJW's since they're against any kind of constructive dialogue and outcomes that doesn't include "muh victimhood" and "GG'ers are evil incarnate".
This entire situation has proven GG'ers and radical SJWs are just two sides of the same coin.
@Dee: Thank you for the very kind offer, but I'm sure you know where my concerns lie. Much depends on Beamdog's next move, and for now I'm content to wait and see.
Even though I get where the people who objected to certain dialog are coming from, I thought the level of controversy it generated was stupid and absolutely ridiculous. People need to learn to let that stuff slide and not take it so seriously. The worst of it warranted, at most, a mere eyeroll.
This is nothing more than a current event "hot topic" that both the SJW's and GG's will exploit to justify their means. Within a few weeks, most people will forget all about this and move on to the next earth shattering politically correct topic that 99% of humanity does not remotely care about.
There should have been an option for "already bought it", because I have. No, the controversy hasn't put me off playing in the slightest, although I'm still working my eventual SoD character through BG:EE 2.0, and I'm trying to avoid SoD spoilers.
EDIT: Oh, okay, I guess "No, not at all" covers people who already bought SoD.
On the contrary. The controversy, and Beamdog's ultimate decision on how to deal with it (it took em a bit...!) has finally sold me that they understand when and how they screwed up, and I think they'll emerge a better company for it.
I long have used only the GoG BG/BG2 games, but because they showed that they care about their community and about not insulting parts of it, yer damn skippy I'll buy both EEs and SoD.
New here, but a long time bg player from old Europe.
If I give beamdog's EE and SOD a shot in the future, only depends how the whole mess develops.
But the lack of respect on *all* sides is disturbing, users and devs alike. I can only shake my head on all those chaotic/evil chars I've read from/about in the last couple of days.
I have to confess I also had high hopes of a decent addon honouring the original trilogy with new interesting characters and thought about giving up my resistance looking into the EEs because I was still happy with the original games and its presentation of the characters. I always thought the games good as they were with all their flaws.
I've yet to make my mind up if I can accept changing good old Coran, Jaheira or Safana.
I probably won't like it, too bad, then. So forgive me and my quirky English.
I have to confess I also had high hopes of a decent addon honouring the original trilogy with new interesting characters and thought about giving up my resistance looking into the EEs because I was still happy with the original games and its presentation of the characters. I always thought the games good as they were with all their flaws.
At the heart of it, that's what the new expansion is. It's just that a lot of folks can't stand things that don't fit their narrow viewpoint. God forbid there's a minor thing I don't like. People are so spoiled nowadays that they have no idea of how to take things they dislike at face value.
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gamemanufactured controversy to generate sales.No controversy could have been big/strong enough to keep me from getting the game. Maybe, just maybe, if I felt personally offended and/or the game would have been the buggy mess some (obviously biased) reviewers made it out to be, I'd have asked for a refund. The way that it is, some people acted with good intentions but lacked somewhat in farsight.
Ultimately I went to youtube and looked at the beginning of a let's play and the game seems fine. The broad brush people paint the entire game with is about a handful of details.
I put it on my steam wishlist, cause I'm still playing through BG1EE and BG2EE.
I hope lessons have been learnt by the writers/developper to think more about the lore of the setting and that there will be more BG content in the future.
I will have to admit to being a bit of a troglodyte over the new UI. The UI in Baldur's Gate 2 is still my favourite game UI of all time, thus I am fairly reluctant to give it up.
In other words: is it possible, for a gamer to think there is a problem, without that gamer immediately landing himself on the "bad team", in your mind?
Would have bought it anyway, we all need more BG in our lives ^^
An NPC there, some minor dialogue there.
In the end, I only care if the gameplay and story is good.
As for the UI, my only complaint about it is the Record screen, as I pointed out in an older thread.
I don't like that AC is buried in Combat Stats instead of making it plainly visible when you hit R.
HP, XP, AC, THAC0 are the most important stuff for a Character Sheet for most classes and characters.
The Information and Combat Stats tabs need to be merged and remove redundancies, asap.
Right now, it's a mess of information. Prioritization, tidying it up, removing redundancies, make it intuitive.
This is nothing more than a current event "hot topic" that both the SJW's and GG's will exploit to justify their means. Within a few weeks, most people will forget all about this and move on to the next earth shattering politically correct topic that 99% of humanity does not remotely care about.
I will say it will make me more cautious about future purchases though.
EDIT: Oh, okay, I guess "No, not at all" covers people who already bought SoD.
I long have used only the GoG BG/BG2 games, but because they showed that they care about their community and about not insulting parts of it, yer damn skippy I'll buy both EEs and SoD.
Hmmm, it's not terrible, but it's not BG2 either.
I'm still going to wait for bug fixes before I purchase SoD, by which time I may have crawled out of my BG2 UI-loving cave..
If I give beamdog's EE and SOD a shot in the future, only depends how the whole mess develops.
But the lack of respect on *all* sides is disturbing, users and devs alike. I can only shake my head on all those chaotic/evil chars I've read from/about in the last couple of days.
I have to confess I also had high hopes of a decent addon honouring the original trilogy with new interesting characters and thought about giving up my resistance looking into the EEs because I was still happy with the original games and its presentation of the characters. I always thought the games good as they were with all their flaws.
I've yet to make my mind up if I can accept changing good old Coran, Jaheira or Safana.
I probably won't like it, too bad, then. So forgive me and my quirky English.