Pausing before AI-initiated conversation OR Contingency spell bug

Fredjo

I had my Contingency set up to cast an Air Elemental upon seeing an enemy just before leaving Elf camp and right at the beginning of Drizzt encounter I immediately hit spacebar before the convo and cast Time Stop. After I make the conversation lead to a battle and Time Stop spell having been cast in a few moments, any and all spells I cast in stopped time do not work, my mage does not react (Aerie) and the Time Stop is useless. I'm not sure if it's the Contingency or the fact that I pause right before the conversation. I'll be able to test this in about an hour.

Fredjo

Just found out I don't have the save anymore. Hopefully someone will test this and fix it.

Ascension64

Who cast Time Stop? Time Stop is designed so that only the caster (and those cheating creatures who are immune to time stop) can do things. This means that anything that leaves the hands of the caster also get added in paused time.

Fredjo

I'm sorry for not being clear, the mage who casts Time Stop (Aerie) doesn't react to anything else but walking for the duration of the spell and she is also the mage with Contingency on Air Elemental.

Ascension64

As I mentioned, all spells cast during Time Stop are delayed until Time Stop ends. That includes the contingency firing.

Fredjo

After the end of Time Stop Air Elemental shows up but all spells cast during Time Stop are nonexistent. The vocalization of spells cast during Time Stop is nonexistent as well. To sum it up: After casting Time Stop my mage is only able to walk around, any and all spells cast during Time Stop DO NOT work neither during nor after the Time Stop ends.

Ascension64

I just got my Aerie to cast Time Stop followed by Magic Missile, Holy Smite, and Hold Person. All of them cast correctly immediately when Time Stop ended.

Fredjo

I've stated the circumstances under which this bug repeatedly took place, not being a beta-tester nor a programmer, I have nothing left to comment on this issue. Hopefully it'll get sorted out.

Roller12

am i understanding the sequence correctly?:

person1 casts Contingency summon-on-enemy-sight
person1 starts casting Time Stop
person2 starts a dialog
wait 5 rounds
person2 ends dialog
combat starts
person1's Contingency doesnt fire
person1's Time Stop starts

Fredjo

it is:
person1casts Contingency summon-on-enemy-sight
person1 gets "waylaid" by Drizzt during travel
game paused right before the person2-initiated dialog shows up
person1 starts casting Time Stop
game unpaused
person2 starts a dialog which ends with fight
combat starts
person1's Contingency doesn't fire
person1's Time Stop starts
person1 casting doesn't work during Time Stop
person1's Time Stop ends
person1's Contigency fires ( Air Elemental shows up)
person1 begins mind battle with Air Elemental

BUT the Contigency might even fire before the beginning of Time Stop as AI Drizzt goes aggro right before the beginning of Time Stop. I'm sorry for not being able to clarify this (lack of the savegame)

Roller12

ok what i tried, with a g3fixpacked game, is attacking random people while the mage casts time stop with a Cont memorized. There was a bunch of weird stuff happening(not surprisingly), but nothing particularly broken. If Cont fires first, time stop is still firing after stun mode and proceeds normally. If time stop fires first than Cont fires second, during freeze time and puts the mage into stun mode, quite ironic.

Have any mods installed?

Ascension64

So what you are trying to say is that if contingency wants to fire but Time Stop takes effect prior to this happening, then the mage who cast Time Stop is unable to complete actions?

Fredjo

I dug up the savegame where I'm about to leave the elven encampment and the progression is like this:

person1casts Contingency summon-on-enemy-sight
person1 gets "waylaid" by Drizzt during travel
game paused right before the person2-initiated dialog shows up
person1 starts casting Time Stop
game unpaused
person2 starts a dialog which ends with fight
combat starts
person1's Time Stop starts
person1's Contingency fires
person1 casting doesn't work during Time Stop
person1's Time Stop ends
person1's summon shows up
person1 begins mind battle with summon

My conclusion is that person1 begins the mind battle during the Time Stop and thus cannot cast anything else, the issue here is that she can move around as if there was no mind battle.

Requested change: allow casting during TIme Stop even with a contigency summon taking place.


I'm using these mods: bg2fixpack, npcflirt, bg2tweaks, widescreen mod,

Avenger_teambg

>Requested change: allow casting during TIme Stop even with a contigency summon taking place.

LOL, no. It is rather, CasterHold (which is used for mind battle) should take effect, even if you are a time stop owner.

Fredjo

Avenger_teambg said:

>Requested change: allow casting during TIme Stop even with a contigency summon taking place.

LOL, no. It is rather, CasterHold (which is used for mind battle) should take effect, even if you are a time stop owner.

Considering that time is stopped during the Time Stop spell, the caster shouldn't be able to mind battle a summon who is not in the frozen spacetime. Caster cannot influence someone outside the Time Stop spell before the spell runs out. The mind battle should begin at the instant the Time Stop ends.