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An UH without disease protection? Seriously?

I won't get into why Viconia is in my Undead Hunter Paladin's party but she is.
She also has "Unholy Blight" as a spell.
Now, even vanilla IWD recognized that all Paladins were immune to disease but I guess in their wisdom, in the BG series it was determined "nope, yer strong enuff, scratch that".
But my goodness, not even an Undead Hunter?
So If Viccy whips this out, my UH goes cook hot-dogs for the group at camp I guess.
So another valuable spell relegated to the "don't use" pile.
Sad to see that.
Personally, I would suggest that he be immune to the disease spells inflicted by undead as well as "Ghoul Touch" and "Vampiric Touch" as well.

m2c

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  • Abi_DalzimAbi_Dalzim Member Posts: 1,428
    Unholy blight doesn't strike me as the most useful spell anyways, given that it doesn't affect evil stuff. I'd use Animate Dead or Glyph of Warding instead.
  • QuartzQuartz Member Posts: 3,853

    Unholy blight doesn't strike me as the most useful spell anyways, given that it doesn't affect evil stuff. I'd use Animate Dead or Glyph of Warding instead.

    GLYPH OF WARDING!!
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  • MalbethMalbeth Member Posts: 27
    It is the mirror of Holy Smite, which does not physically smite. Both are magical damage spells.
  • lunarlunar Member Posts: 3,460
    edited May 2016

    The Unholy Blight spell doesn't function via disease. It just causes damage. The name of the spell takes some poetic license...

    Agreed that Unholy Blight is not a disease attack, it does magical damage which UH is not immune to.
    However, on a failed save, it does weaken the victim a bit, IIRC. It is like a ghast's disease ability, -2 to thac0. I wonder if the op was referring to this?

    Is an undead hunter immune to ghast's disease, mummy rot, and contagion spells? Mummy rot is a magical curse, and paladins are not supposed to be immune to it, btw. Ghast's disease, is also supposed to be the disgusting smell of rot and decay that weakens the living. So it is up to debate as well. A paladin is supposed to be immune to non-magical diseases. So no measles or common cold or bloody diarrhea for eating spoiled food for the shiny knight. Magical diseases like Contagion spell, I dunno.

  • AstroBryGuyAstroBryGuy Member Posts: 3,437
    lunar said:

    The Unholy Blight spell doesn't function via disease. It just causes damage. The name of the spell takes some poetic license...

    Agreed that Unholy Blight is not a disease attack, it does magical damage which UH is not immune to.
    However, on a failed save, it does weaken the victim a bit, IIRC. It is like a ghast's disease ability, -2 to thac0. I wonder if the op was referring to this?

    Is an undead hunter immune to ghast's disease, mummy rot, and contagion spells? Mummy rot is a magical curse, and paladins are not supposed to be immune to it, btw. Ghast's disease, is also supposed to be the disgusting smell of rot and decay that weakens the living. So it is up to debate as well. A paladin is supposed to be immune to non-magical diseases. So no measles or common cold or bloody diarrhea for eating spoiled food for the shiny knight. Magical diseases like Contagion spell, I dunno.

    A paladin is immune to all forms of disease, but the 2nd Edition PHB notes "that certain magical afflictions -- lycanthropy and mummy rot --are curses and not diseases." So, while curses like mummy rot are specifically excluded, other magical diseases are not. I would say that a paladin should be immune to ghast disease.

    The BG description of Unholy Blight makes no mention of disease. Just energy from the Negative Material Plane. So, as others have said, disease immunity providing immunity to Unholy Blight makes no sense. Even 3rd Edition considers Unholy Blight a curse (i.e., remove disease will not cure its effects, but remove curse will).
  • sarevok57sarevok57 Member Posts: 6,006
    im pretty sure paladins are immune to disease in the bg2 ( cant 100 % recall though) although I do believe that when I was fighting the otyugh in the first dungeon my paladin wasn't taking any damage, so when it comes to being immune to disease maybe they are immune to the diseases that cause damage to HP not to ability scores/thac0 etc...

    if you really want to test it out, give your paladin the ring of gaxx, that ring makes you immune to disease so if you are wearing that ring and its still happening then you know that there is a bug somewhere perhaps?
  • Abi_DalzimAbi_Dalzim Member Posts: 1,428
    Cavalier's poison immunity makes them immune to disease, but that's it.
  • toolargtoolarg Member Posts: 182
    The ATweaks mod adds disease inmunity for non kitted paladins.
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