Fighter equipment issue
goblindeals
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I got the update in April and have not been able to play my favorite game since nothing works correctly fighters cannot use anything except quarterstaffs and clubs. the game crashes all the time does not scroll properly, no saved files, I have uninstalled all files on pc and reinstalled files including steam and verified all install files and still does not work, I get achievements for lands I have not been in and I cannot even get out of Candle Keep. So Sad I have to say Good Bye to my Favorite BG EE Game!!
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Do you install any mods?
Does it only occur when you make a new barbarian character? Or is it any fighter?
Also I'm assuming based on your statement "no saved files" that the game did not make an autosave when you made this character? What happens in the game when you attempt to make a save?
Also what are your computers specifications?
You have a level 1 character with a 19 Str, 19 Con, 18 Dex and 18 Cha...that's 94 points. Not an impossible roll assuming you roll long enough but I want to make sure you didn't edit the saved game file with something like EE Keeper?
Second item: HP: Barbarians start out with 12HP and raise by 12 / level...your screen shot shows only 10...meaning while your screen shot is showing you're a Barbarian, you're not picking up any of the proper stats for a barbarian. You're at 15 HP where you should be at 17.
One other issue that's bothering us: The listed THAC0 doesn't seem to be right?
According to the AD&D 2e Handbook: A 19 Str gets you -3 THAC0 (+3 to Hit = -3 THAC0). Assuming you're just starting out and have no proficiency in Quarterstaff (and it doesn't look like you do based upon your proficiency list) you should be at: 20 +2 (non-proficient in QS) - 3 (19 Strength) = 19, not 17. We've reproduced your character locally and can verify that our starting characters get a 19 THAC0. This brings up the question of Mods.
When asking about whether you have mods installed, we need to be very sure we're clear, when we talk about mods we are talking about ANYTHING that has been put into either your Game directory or your Documents directory that did not either ship with the game from Beamdog or get created by the game itself. This includes custom portraits, custom sounds, "bug fix" patches, or anything developed/created/installed by anyone but the Beamdog Launcher/Steam.
One other question: What does the version number show on your game?
I know you mentioned having tried uninstalling/reinstalling, but If you have not completely wiped the installation (and by that I mean uninstalled from windows and then deleted the Game directory and then backed up/deleted the Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition directory in Documents), it's worth trying that...there have been issues where patched files and/or older installations have caused issues.
I notice you mention Steam in your post: Have you tried back-grading to 1.3 through Steam and seeing if that works? From there, upgrade back to 2.0 and see if that fixes things for you.
I also have the same question as elminster: What hardware are you using?
Please go into your Steam's BG:EE Directory, mine has been customized to:
\Games\Steam\steamapps\common\Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition\
This should be similar to your path from the "steamapps" on down. You should be able to get to this by right-clicking your game in steam, going to properties, click the 3rd tab (Local Files) and click "Browse Local Files..." button.
In whatever this directory is, you'll see an "override" directory. Open that up.
If you see anything other than like a single file (mine shows box8.PVRZ, but that may not even be there on your copy as I'm working off of QA / dev stuff) that's probably the culpret. Backup/remove the entire Overrides directory and restart the game with that directory created but blank.
New character stats, yes it was a re-roll and yes it was a brand new character created with the new install, so if the stats are not correct than it may be another bug in the program not something that I rewrote as I am not into rewriting program files for games, I am not a programmer or developer and do not write code.
I am glad to know that there are other bugs I did not know about like the THACO and the HP when creating a new character not being correct. This is something I was unaware of. No wonder things do not work correctly.
As far as mods, no custom portraits, no sound tracks or bug fixes that I have personally installed the only things installed are the updates you have sent through steam that I have had no control over the install on steam they install automatically. The one in April and again May 17th yesterday........ and it did not fix anything......still broken tried it this morning
File version 0.1.0.0
Install and Reinstall - for completely wiping installation files I remove them from steam by uninstalling the game then go to all files for the game on computer and remove all files by deleting them including all the character files and temp files then I wipe my computer with the computer wipe file program I have that does a gutmann wipe of all sectors that were just emptied including deleted files and that includes the steam program and all it's associated temp files, it takes a long time to reinstall all my games in steam as I have 72 games in my library alone not including family shared library which are all uninstalled wiped and reinstalled ie downloaded. When I delete all files there are no files on my computer in documents, folders, program files, temp folders anywhere on my computer referencing steam or baldur's gate.
as far as back grading through steam that did not work on either one.
as far as hardware if you are asking about my system here is one of the systems see screenshots
in the override file mine also has that file in it box8.PVRZ are you saying I am to remove this file when yours works fine with the same file in there. Why should I have to remove a file if yours works fine with the same file. Should not mine work fine too
You mentioned earlier "no save files". What happens when you make a save?
Also what happens if you start a game with an Abdel pregen character (found in the game during character generation under the import button)
Don't want to take away from Elminster's Post but did want to address a couple questions you had:
First, apologies for the unclear communication.
Re: Override Directory: I'm not suggesting you remove the box8.PVRZ file, I was only commenting that it might not be there in your override directory. It's ok if it is, it's ok if it's not...the only thing I really wanted to check was that there was nothing ELSE in the Override directory...and it doesn't sound like you do.
Secondly, as Elminster notes: the steps you're going through to delete things are unnecessary. To clear your BG:EE Content do the following:
In Steam:
* Right click "Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition"
* Click "Properties"
* Click the "Local Files" tab
* Click the button that says something like "Delete Local Game Content"
* Once that's complete, the game should be available for Reinstallation, but don't do that yet.
Local Filesystem:
* Open your File Browser on your windows system and go to your "My Documents" directory.
* Rename your "Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition" folder to some other name (BGEE_old is a good choice)
Back in Steam:
* Back in your steam client, click the "install" button on Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition to have it reinstall the game.
* Once the game is reinstalled, click the "Play" button in steam to start the game.
What I'd like you to do then is follow the following steps and tell me where your game breaks, if it does:
* Open the Game, Let the D&D and Beamdog Opening Movies Play
* When you get to the Campaign Select Screen (Just after the Opening Movies) click the "Baldur's Gate" icon.
* On the Next Screen click "Single Player"
* On the Next Screen click "New Game" -> You should enter character creation.
* On the right side, click "Import" then "Character File". Click "Abdel" and confirm to import the Abdel Pregen Character
* Complete character generation for Abdel by selecting color, sound set, and name. Confirm the character to start the game.
* Click "Normal" for the Difficulty and Confirm again.
* Watch the opening sequence till you have control of your character.
* Click the "Options" button and click "Save Game"
* Name your game something like "To upload" and save it.
* Go to your My Documents directory, you'll see a new "Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition" directory.
* Under that go into "save" and zip/upload that saved game to your next post.
Either upload the save or let us know where in the above steps your game breaks please.
broken also I do not know why we are trying a mage when I am concerned about fighters not being able to use any weapons or armor
I followed all your steps and I guess my over 300 hours of game play and all my multi-player games are gone for good all the hard work I had in all the accomplishments I had are also gone, I have no achievements outside of Friendly Faces and I have not left Candle Keep since the Updates in April and I got that After the update, and all my other ones are gone
So there are many bugs with the update since April that I have not mentioned yet as you can see on this screenshot the map is messed up too everything is black boarders
Also attached are the two zipped overwrites hope you can find something out
(also the black borders can be changed in the Graphics options by turning off "Allow scrolling out of bounds")
By the way the map thing worked I can see the full map now
in bgee 1.3 version beta and it works fine
In the beta 2 version it work fine too
when ever I create a character is when I have problem THACO is wrong, HP is wrong, cannot use weapons cannot do anything
why do I have to play the game with only your pre-generated characters?
Ok, to comment: So to clarify, when you load up the "Abdel" (Fighter) pregen character everything works correctly?
When, however, you loaded the Adelia (Mage) pregen character it didn't? And I assume by this you mean the game worked as expected with the Abdel (Fighter) pregen character on both 1.3 and 2.2? I expect your question was more: "why are the pre-generated characters the only ones working", and it's a great question, I'm stumped on that as well.
Are you administrator on your own system? Is this someone else's computer or a work computer or something controlled by someone else...for example:
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* If this is a work computer, is it controlled by some kind of corporate policy?
* If this is a personal computer but not yours, are you running in a restricted account? (i.e. The account you're running as is not a local administrator of the system)
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**** Important Questions ****
* Are "parental restrictions" or some other limited access methods enabled on the computer? Is there any "net nanny" software installed?
* Do you have Virus Scanning/Malware Scanning software installed? If so can you try turning that off?
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Here's something else to try. (Running Steam and BG:EE As Administrator).
In your windows 10 dock/bar (the one with the start menu on it):
* Mouse to the Far Right and hit the "^" near your clock at the beginning of the set of mini icons on the right side of the screen.
* Find the "Steam" icon (Blue/Black logo with White on it - The steam logo)
* Right click the Steam Icon
* At the bottom of the PopUp Menu, click "exit" - This will close steam.
From here, we're going to start steam up as an administrator.
* In the "Search the web and Windows" box (also Potentially your "Cortana" box, if you have that turned on) type "Steam". (This box is the long type in box next to your windows start menu icon at the far left/bottom).
* At the top of the pop up window you should see an icon listing itself as "Steam" with the words "Desktop App" below it.
* Right click this icon and one of the items on the list should be "Run as Administrator".
* Click that: you should be prompted to allow steam to run as an admin on your system. Tell it "yes".
Now that Steam is running as an Admin, lets also run BG:EE as an admin as well.
* In steam, Right click on "Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition"
* In the pop up menu at the bottom click "properties"
* Click the "Local Files" tab
* Click "Browse Local Files..."
* In the window that pops up, you should see "baldur.exe" in the list of files.
* Right click that and click "Run as Administrator" toward the top.
* If you get prompted by windows security, click "OK" to allow BG:EE to run as an admin on your system.
At this point, go back through your character creation process and let us know if this fixes the problem or not.
Please try turning off your Virus Scanner SEPARATELY from running the software as Admin.
when ever I create a character is when I have problem THACO is wrong, HP is wrong, cannot use weapons cannot do anything
why do I have to play the game with only your pre-generated characters? You are stumped too??????HMMMM
I am the only user and the admin of this computer, I have the programs running as administrator already and have went to task manager and shut everything off including protection, I do not have any child guards on this system, system programs are not shut off and game programs are left on that are needed to run the game and it still does not work
I have tried this on other systems too not just the one listed above I have 3 other systems one using windows 7 and another using windows 10 and I still get the same results so it is something in game files from what I am experiencing, 3 different systems, 3 systems I am admin on and still get same results, my husband is also having the same issue on his system and he also has over 300 hours of game play and all our multiplayer games together are unusable.... this was our main family game
What is your game version showing when you load the main screen for BG:EE?
It'll be showing somewhere on the campaign select screen.
And just to confirm (though I think you've answered this several times above), when you are deleting the game from steam to re-install, after deleting the game through steam (Delete Local Content...) you're going into your steam apps directory and deleting the entire BG:EE Folder under there as well right? The steam uninstaller tends to leave a significant number of files laying around.
(If it throws an error trying to delete the "Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition" folder, it's ok to just delete everything inside it)
I've attached a program written by one of the other QA/Dev folks (@Troodon80). This is a simple checksum script that will output a file that will help us diagnose whether any of your game files are broken or not.
It is NOT a signed app, meaning windows is going to come back when you try to run it and pop a big blue error message up telling you it doesn't want to run the program because it might be insecure. You're going to want to confirm (Through the "More" or "Advanced" link on the pop up box) that you want to run the thing anyway.
It'll pop up a Dos Prompt window and start spitting out information...again, what you'll see is a listing of some of the files in the folder you run it in and the checksum of those files. The information will get stored to a file I'll have you zip and upload here.
Instuctions:
* Download and Unzip "filecheck.zip" onto your computer.
* Copy the "filecheck.exe" file to your steam BG:EE Game Folder (The "Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition" folder under your steamapps library - the same location baldur.exe and chitin.key resides.)
* Once the file is copied there, enter your Steam BG:EE directory and double click the filecheck.exe file there.
* This could take a few minutes to several minutes to run, you'll see a dos box pop up and strings of characters will appear next to a listing of the files in your BG:EE directory.
* When done, the DOS window will disappear.
* In the Steam BG:EE Directory, you'll see a file "sha256.log", please zip and upload that file to this post.
ALSO:
I've included a saved game from my own copy of BG:EE, a fairly close reproduction of your character. This one works for me. I'd like you to load this saved game up on your system and see if you have the same problems (can't save, wrong THACO, etc.).
Please upload the zipped sha256.log file and information about whether the saved game below works for you or doesn't.
Illydth just asked "And just to confirm (though I think you've answered this several times above), when you are deleting the game from steam to re-install, after deleting the game through steam (Delete Local Content...) you're going into your steam apps directory and deleting the entire BG:EE Folder under there as well right? The steam uninstaller tends to leave a significant number of files laying around."
and earlier Illdth said that this was all I had to do "Secondly, as Elminster notes: the steps you're going through to delete things are unnecessary. To clear your BG:EE Content do the following:
In Steam:
* Right click "Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition"
* Click "Properties"
* Click the "Local Files" tab
* Click the button that says something like "Delete Local Game Content"
* Once that's complete, the game should be available for Reinstallation, but don't do that yet.
Local Filesystem:
* Open your File Browser on your windows system and go to your "My Documents" directory.
* Rename your "Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition" folder to some other name (BGEE_old is a good choice)
Back in Steam:
* Back in your steam client, click the "install" button on Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition to have it reinstall the game.
* Once the game is reinstalled, click the "Play" button in steam to start the game.
Here is what I was doing "Install and Reinstall - for completely wiping installation files I remove them from steam by uninstalling the game then go to all files for the game on computer and remove all files by deleting them including all the character files and temp files then I wipe my computer with the computer wipe file program I have that does a gutmann wipe of all sectors that were just emptied including deleted files and that includes the steam program and all it's associated temp files, it takes a long time to reinstall all my games in steam as I have 72 games in my library alone not including family shared library which are all uninstalled wiped and reinstalled ie downloaded. When I delete all files there are no files on my computer in documents, folders, program files, temp folders anywhere on my computer referencing steam or baldur's gate."
Please let me know which is the correct procedure to reinstall the game
as far as the game file I did not see it in the campaign screen that changes if I am using the different beta modes per my information I was sending above from beta V1.3.2053 to beta v.2.2.66.0 and if I say no beta it is still v.2.2.66.0
Before I try the information provided above I need to know what is going on I am not installing something I am not sure of that may corrupt my computer without knowing if I am doing the install correctly since I have been given conflicting information
* Did you attempt to load my saved game? Does it work?
* The version number is available when you open the program on the main screen.
I understand you are seeing 1.3.2053 and 2.2.66.0 depending upon whether you select the 1.3 version of the game or the production version of the game on steam. Both those numbers are correct.
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Regarding Installation Instructions:
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I didn't realize steam left files laying around. These are EXTENDED instructions to above, not changed. Same steps, just a couple added.
In Steam:
* Right click "Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition"
* Click "Properties"
* Click the "Local Files" tab
* Click the button that says something like "Delete Local Game Content"
In the Filesystem
* Go to your Steam Game Directory (*\steam\steamapps\common)
* You'll see a Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition directory. Delete it. If you can't delete the directory itself, delete the contents.
* Go to your "My Documents" directory.
* Rename your "Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition" folder to some other name (BGEE_old is a good choice)
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NOTE: You DO NOT need to uninstall all of your steam games or do a disk wipe or any of these other procedures. You simply need to make sure all of the files for the old installation are no longer showing. *****
AT THIS POINT (Please Check):
= Your BG:EE game in Steam should be showing with an "install" button.
= Your "\steam\steamapps\common" folder should NOT have a "Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition" folder in it (or if it does, it should be empty of all files)
= Your "My Documents" directory should not include a "Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition" directory.
Once all three of these are correct, continue below:
* Back in your steam client, click the "install" button on Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition to have it reinstall the game.
* Once the game is reinstalled, click the "Play" button in steam to start the game.
If this does not work, we need you to (as instructed in a previous message) run the filecheck.exe in your reinstalled BG:EE game directory. This is imperative because without knowing what's there and what files are there and/or if anything there is corrupted we may just be chasing our tails and wasting your time.
Ok, you can probably delete anything but your first BG:EE old. Basically keep the original one you backed up because it's got all your old saved game files and such in it. The others should be mostly blank and pretty much unpopulated other than a few files and maybe a saved game or two.
Just make sure you're keeping your old/original directory, once we get things working we'll work through getting your old stuff that was working back into your newly updated game.
Ok, proceed with the reinstall as I mentioned in my last post. Let us know how it goes.
How'd the Re-installation go? Fixed? Same Problem? Let us know.