When do you rest?

Mr2150

So you are playing BGEE/SOD/BG2EE... when do you make your party rest?

Mr2150

I'm guessing the majority will be 'no set method' or 'checkpoint'. Also I think it will make a difference if you are playing or role-playing....

I usually forget then suddenly realise and quickly head back to town to rest - I will listen to Minsc complain for ages before I do anything about it.

alceryes

There should also be the standard - frequently, regularly, seldom-ly in this poll.
I would fall under the 'seldom' section, which I really need to stop doing.

I've heard that the fatigue negatives can really stack up. Does anyone know if the penalties ever top out or do they just keep on increasing?

Mr2150

I considered adding something like that @alceryes but I figured that seldom could also be 'whenever I remember' etc...

Yeah - I don't know much about how fatigue impacts things so that would be useful information and guidance...

alceryes

Ahhh, found an informative post on it -

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I recently discussed this matter with the mighty A64. It's a long story, but I'll try to summarize it.

Fatigue behaviour:
- characters gain +1 fatigue every 4 in-game hours, aka 1200 real seconds
- character's CON value determine a fixed base bonus/penalty to fatigue
- with vanilla's tables characters start to gain -1 luck penalty at fatigue 7 (see fatigmod.2da), thus after 8400 sec, aka 140 minutes of real time
- from then on, every other 1200 seconds another -1 luck penalty is applied
- fatigue can be increased, but not decreased (sadly), only resting completely reset fatigue

Luck is supposed to cause many things, but many of them are not implemented (e.g. there's no penalty to saving throws, nor to thieving skills - Item/Spell Revisions manually added them). The plain opcode only affects hit and dmg rolls, and influence how much dmg you take (*).

For example, a character with -1 luck from fatigue would suffer -1 penalty to hit and dmg rolls, and suffers +1 "minimum dmg" for each dice of dmg from damage dealing spells (e.g. when hit by a 5d6 fireball normally you take 5-30 dmg, but with a -1 luck penalty it becomes 10-30).

I hope I managed to be clear.
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This was posted by @Demivrgvs back in 2012. https://forums.beamdog.com/discussion/5960/is-fatigue-actually-detrimental

In that thread, there's lots of discussion (and also some confusion) on how it actually works though, as some people see different results in-game. The above sounds pretty solid - which is a bit of an eye opener. Fatigue is a MAJOR negative to your characters performance and should be avoided at all times!

I'd still like to know if it ever tops out. I mean if you have a character already 'fatigued' and you move between certain Cloakwood areas you would wind up with a -6!? to your luck on the other side. I'm pretty sure I didn't experience this as I would have surely noticed all the whiffs.

kanisatha

Should make it possible to select multiple options.

Lord_Tansheron

I don't actually rest all that often, simply because I prefer low-maintenance setups for most of the game, going all-out only against particularly nasty encounters (and then resting).

At least that's how it used to be.

Now with LoB mode, I rest a lot simply to heal. LoB on insane puts quite the strain on party HP, more than could ever be efficiently covered by healing. Rest is the one-stop-heal-shop more than anything. Helps that spells also reload, but I don't think I'd rest as often as I do if it was only about that.

Kurona

I rest as party resources dictate. Considering the mountain of enemies the party face in the average day (enemies who are always perfectly rested) I feel little guilt in doing so whenever required.

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Kamigoroshi

My Alter Ego Oozemaster rests twelve hours a day. Consisting of two sets of nappings and one main rest. Needless to say only the finest Inns with private bathrooms and heated waterbed mattresses comes into question.

semiticgoddess

I use CTRL-R and a custom spell to rest the party, just to save time.

However, if I don't have Invisibility 10' Radius on hand and can't find a safe place to rest, I'll rest normally. That way, I still experience nighttime ambushes when it's not safe to rest.

BillyYank

Continuing on when you're out of spells is like not bringing bullets to gun fight.

Also, if we arrive in a new area and it's night, I'll rest then too.

God

'KNOW THAT THEY NEVER SLEEP, NEVER REST AND NEVER FALTER.'

JumboWheat01

Whenever my quickest fatigue gainer complains. Sometimes its Minsc, other times it's Neera.

...Ya know, I don't think I've ever heard Imoen complain, mostly because of those two up above.

GreenWarlock

I prefer to rest at inns, and at night, but there is no 'rest till morning' option. When I am overland though, I will almost always trek to a town for rest, unless the whole party is severely depleted, such that a random encounter might risk the trip.

I usually camp after trekking through cloak wood though, as the game pretty much forces that with the fatigue system. I want my party to arrive fully rested before tackling the dungeon of deep foreboding, and trekking what feels like a week without rest does not support that.

Finally, I prefer to resurface than continue dungeoneering if running depleted, unless it feels super-critical to continue to the bitter end, such as all spent up and about to face Daevorn. Then I will find a safe looking corner in the already cleared-out dungeon, and set a defensive camp for an optimistic 8 hours or so...

mf2112

I don't mind resting in dungeons, I usually try to find a good location as @GreenWarlock said. I wish I could cast an illusion to make that dead-end corridor continue to appear to be a dead-end corridor in the game, but I head canon it if I successfully rest.

SmilingSword

I'll rest if people are overly damaged, so Vicky can cast some heals or if somebody is out of a spell I like using. Hell I end up resting for weeks at a time to get Vicky and Jaheiras romances to progress. Early game I rest just so I can use my googles again.

DJKajuru

SmilingSword said:

I'll rest if people are overly damaged, so Vicky can cast some heals or if somebody is out of a spell I like using. Hell I end up resting for weeks at a time to get Vicky and Jaheiras romances to progress. Early game I rest just so I can use my googles again.

There's a better way to keep a romance progressing without using the console: pause the game and go make a sandwich. The interval between romances is real time and not game time, therefore it keeps running while the game is paused.

Ravenslight

I tend to rest according to how I’m currently role-playing my character and party.

Usually once a day.

When in a dungeon and my party is wounded, we try to find a place to “hide” and tend to our wounds. Also, if my casters are weary they will be of little use should we run into trouble. Of course the “nights” can sometimes be very long and dangerous for my weary little band of adventures.

On the occasions that we travel to a town in order to trade for supplies, we will also take advantage of the local inns to rest up and prepare for our next adventure.

Unlike many here, I think of resting as an integral part of my gameplay.

recklessheart

I try to rest at appropriate integers, rather than whenever I run out of spells. This means that I am a bit more reserved about which spells I use and when I use them. Sometimes it is easier than others, but iirc I tend to reach the final encounters with Jon Irenicus at about 60 in-game days having passed.