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Stacking Thac0/Save Penalty

RaduzielRaduziel Member Posts: 4,714
So, what penalties stacks?

Greater Malison + Doom + Specialist Wizard Penalty + Spell's Penalty (like those from Spook or Domination) stacks?

Thac0 Penalty from Ray of Enfeeblement, Doom and Blindness stacks?

Bonus question:

Does Blindness gives a penalty in save throws? If it does, does it stacks with those stated in the first question?

Bonus question 2:

Can a specialist wizard use wands from its school of opposition? Could a Diviner, for example, use a Wand of Summoning?

Thank you :smile:

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  • Lord_TansheronLord_Tansheron Member Posts: 4,211
    As a general rule of thumb, different effects stack with each other, but the same effect will usually not stack with itself.

    As always, there are of course exceptions. This game is complicated.
  • lunarlunar Member Posts: 3,460
    An enchanter casting Chaos upon a Doomed and Greater Malisoned target will force:

    -4 (spell) -2 (specialist) -2 (doom) -4 (greater malison) a save vs spell at -12 penalty! Even dragons will realiably fail this save. (if their magic resistance is lowered)

    IIRC, blindness does not cause save penalties.

    Last I checked, enchanters could use wands of fire, so yeah. Unless they nerfed it in a recent patch, not a big fan of 2.0+ versions.
  • gorgonzolagorgonzola Member Posts: 3,864
    Greater Malison + Doom + Specialist Wizard Penalty + Spell's Penalty (like those from Spook or Domination) stacks?
    yes as already told. If not nerfed in EE there is one more way: putting in the first place a sequencer or trigger a spell with good penalty and then other ones the penalty of the first is applied to all. A good way to increase the chances with spells that have no or few penalty even if the cost is 2 more spells, the sequencer and the high penalty spell.

    Thac0 Penalty from Ray of Enfeeblement, Doom and Blindness stacks?
    Ray of Enfeeblement doesn't affect the thaco, but lowers STR (so the enemy's thaco is lowered even if technically speaking there is no direct effect of the spell on the thaco). add GM to the mix.
  • semiticgoddesssemiticgoddess Member Posts: 14,903
    Called Shot is the only save penalty that stacks with itself, and can guarantee a failed save on any enemy with enough hits.
  • RaduzielRaduziel Member Posts: 4,714
    Thank you, guys. Finally I feel confident enough to do an Enchanter run :smile:
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