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Impossible to make a Diviner or Enchanter in ToB?

TenreccTenrecc Member Posts: 265
edited August 2016 in Troubleshooting
Hey guys, I just tried to make a Diviner in ToB but literally couldn't because I need to select a Divination spell for the 7th level and... there aren't any. Same deal for Enchanter. Seems like they literally can't be created in ToB right now. Guessing they aren't really popular since this should've been the issue in the whole EE, but anyway.

Thing is, I have a lot of mods installed right now, but none that should affect this. And I really dont want to spend hours uninstalling/re-installing for this minute bug alone, but I do want to bug report it if necessary.

So, can anyone of you without mods try to create a Diviner or Enchanter in ToB and tell me if it works? Or can't you progress from the 7th level spell slot?

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  • KamigoroshiKamigoroshi Member Posts: 5,870
    You are right.

    Just tested in on a fresh ToB:EE game with patch v.2.3.67.3 and no mods installed.
    • Diviners couldn't get past the "Memorize Mage Spells: Level 7" character creation screen.
    • Enchanters coudn't even get past the "Memorize Mage Spells: Level 6" character creation screen, as there are no more arcane enchantment spells after spell level 5.
  • TenreccTenrecc Member Posts: 265
    Thanks mate, saved me a lot of time. Bug reported.
  • RaduzielRaduziel Member Posts: 4,714
    As a solo Enchanter I thank you for this.
  • GreenWarlockGreenWarlock Member Posts: 1,354
    Are there any appropriate spells waiting to be ported from IWD? Or is it time to dig out the 2nd Edition source material again?
  • sarevok57sarevok57 Member Posts: 6,002
    Kamigoroshi said:

    You are right.

    Just tested in on a fresh ToB:EE game with patch v.2.3.67.3 and no mods installed.

    • Diviners couldn't get past the "Memorize Mage Spells: Level 7" character creation screen.
    • Enchanters coudn't even get past the "Memorize Mage Spells: Level 6" character creation screen, as there are no more arcane enchantment spells after spell level 5.
    I also tested this and got the same scenario
  • deltagodeltago Member Posts: 7,811
    A work around for now is to pregenerate a character in SoA, and then export it to ToB.

    You are gimped by not having any high level spells at the beginning of the game however, but consoling the ones you would have picked in scroll form and then memorizing them would work IMO.
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  • KamigoroshiKamigoroshi Member Posts: 5,870
    @subtledoctor I wholly agree on the importance of both mods you've listed above. Heck, Ghaunadaur itself knows it's no secret how highly I value the modding scene.

    But the Diviner and Enchanter kits need to be officially fixed. To be unable to level up at higher level, or even to create them at the beginning of ToB, is a game-breaking bug no matter how you look at it.
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  • KamigoroshiKamigoroshi Member Posts: 5,870
    @Tenrecc
    Care to report another bug about the specialist mages? Further testing has revealed that Transmuters share the same problem as Diviners and Enchanters. To be more precise:
    • Transmuters can't get past the "Memorize Mage Spells: Level 5" screen. Poor sods are stuck with 4th level spells.
    All other specialist mages appear to level up fine. Even Wild Mages who only have like 5 unique spells aren't affected by this bug.
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  • TenreccTenrecc Member Posts: 265
    Kamigoroshi said:

    @Tenrecc
    Care to report another bug about the specialist mages? Further testing has revealed that Transmuters share the same problem as Diviners and Enchanters. To be more precise:

    • Transmuters can't get past the "Memorize Mage Spells: Level 5" screen. Poor sods are stuck with 4th level spells.
    All other specialist mages appear to level up fine. Even Wild Mages who only have like 5 unique spells aren't affected by this bug.
    Haha, I didn't even consider that, because I have tier lists with all spells and Transmuters have spells for each spell level... however, the only spell they have at level 5 is Lower Resistance, which has the unfortunate property of being classed as Abjuration/Alteration, which means that despite being a spell belonging to their scrool, neither Abjurers nor Transmuters will ever be able to learn it. ^^

    It's a nice catch, but it seems someone at Beamdog already had made that catch - my bug report has been accepted and updated to include Transmuters. I'll link it if anyone wants to follow it;

    http://redmine.beamdog.com/issues/25841
  • demon9675demon9675 Member Posts: 30
    edited August 2016
    Very nice bug catch, OP! Kind of amusing to me that ToB has been out for so many years and nobody noticed this until now.
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