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All female party

Possible or not. I was thinking Aerie, Jaheira, Mazzy, Viconia and Nalia.... Later Imoen instead of Nalia.... Thoughts and what class should I play in this case....

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  • filcat88filcat88 Member Posts: 115
    All these female characters cover almost everything...

    Jaheira and Mazzy imo are awesome in combat...Mazzy can be also an excellent archer
    You have cleric stuff with Jaheria Viconia and Aerie
    And last but not least rouge stuff with Nalia/Imoen

    I'd suggest a fighter-like character, since you already have a lot of magic in such a party...I'd say monk

    Have fun!

    CvijetaCrevsDaak
  • OrlonKronsteenOrlonKronsteen Member Posts: 603
    Very possible, and it's a balanced party, too, except for being a little light on the thief side. Imoen could do your thieving, but until you get her there will be challenges. Therefore, might I suggest a thief or fighter/thief charname?

    ThacoBellprofanitywarningCrevsDaak
  • CvijetaCvijeta Member Posts: 328

    Very possible, and it's a balanced party, too, except for being a little light on the thief side. Imoen could do your thieving, but until you get her there will be challenges. Therefore, might I suggest a thief or fighter/thief charname?

    I was just thinking fighter thief multiclass.
    But, would a bard charname be good idea....or not....

  • filcat88filcat88 Member Posts: 115
    Cvijeta said:

    Very possible, and it's a balanced party, too, except for being a little light on the thief side. Imoen could do your thieving, but until you get her there will be challenges. Therefore, might I suggest a thief or fighter/thief charname?

    I was just thinking fighter thief multiclass.
    But, would a bard charname be good idea....or not....
    Yeah a Blade, like Haer-Dalis is the more fighter among the bard kits.

  • OrlonKronsteenOrlonKronsteen Member Posts: 603
    Cvijeta said:

    Very possible, and it's a balanced party, too, except for being a little light on the thief side. Imoen could do your thieving, but until you get her there will be challenges. Therefore, might I suggest a thief or fighter/thief charname?

    I was just thinking fighter thief multiclass.
    But, would a bard charname be good idea....or not....
    Bards are great, but again you're stuck with Nalia as your thief until Spellhold. You can get by with Nalia (get potions of master thievery and perception, etc.) but it takes some micro-management. If you really want to play a bard class and can tolerate using Nalia/Imoen as your rogue, then go for it! :) Personally, I'd go for fighter thief, but I'm biased towards always having an actively-leveling thief in my parties.

    GreenWarlock
  • StefanOStefanO Member Posts: 316
    If you're looking for a great thief: Hexxat


    Expect issues with Aerie and Mazzy.


    The Dace mod introduces a female bounty hunter.

    CrevsDaak
  • CvijetaCvijeta Member Posts: 328
    So, it's up to some sort of pure fighter, fighter/thief or thief? Do I really need Nalia if my charname is fighter/thief?

  • megamike15megamike15 Member Posts: 1,263
    not really. shee is more a mage anyways.

    CrevsDaakThacoBellNonnahswriter
  • lroumenlroumen Member Posts: 1,662
    edited February 2017
    Not sure I missed it but if you play a male protagonist you are set for some good banter too.

    You can easily play any class you want some you are not lacking any of the main responsibilities. Warrior, cleric, Druid, mage, thief. It is all there.

  • KamigoroshiKamigoroshi Member Posts: 4,603
    Female half-orc shaman protagonist FTW! Because green is awesome.

    ThacoBellCrevsDaakNonnahswriter
  • ifupaulineifupauline Member Posts: 404
    I did it in the past, always enjoyed how Aerie gets constantly bashed by Jaheira and Viconia at every single turn she speaks. Your party will need a decent tank and a thief, if you really want to make it "sexy" charname could be a kensai/thief dual at lvl 9 of course. 4 members is enough. Obviously Aerie will get robe of vecna, dispel and instant group healing will be very useful. Jaheira should focuses on summonings, healing and defensive spells while Viconia buff your party. She will get better and better as she can cast high cleric spell much sooner than Aerie and Jaheira.

    OrlonKronsteen
  • megamike15megamike15 Member Posts: 1,263
    you may need to use an npc mod if you really need a thief. nalia is not a good one and imoen is more a mage. and your only choice for a pure thief is yoshimo and hexxat and one is male and thee other well hexxat. so unless you want yoshimo to be a tempt until you get immy. might want to get either fade or dace. or you know make your charname dueled as thief.

  • StefanOStefanO Member Posts: 316
    edited February 2017
    Yes. Hexxat is Hexxat. Sure she is a capable thief, and is female. Sure she fits not in every party dynamic. Good or bad, it's up to you. I'm very much in favour of Hexxat.

    My female only party would be: Mazzy (tank/archer), Hexxat (backstabber/trapper), CHARNAME as multi class cleric mage and Imoen as mage later on.

    I really should do that.

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  • chimaerachimaera Member Posts: 737
    SomeSort said:

    Using Jahiera, Aerie, and Viconia is going to give you an awful lot of divine magic. It's not really the end of the world- Jahiera will prove her worth as a front-liner, Aerie's also giving you extra Arcane casting, and Viconia's magic resistance is usable and abusable, especially if you're not opposed to a little bit of situational evil to secure her the Human Skin armor, too. (With that, she can pretty easily hit 100% magic resistance, which is as awesome as it sounds.)

    But there's going to be diminishing returns on that divine might in a way that there wouldn't be with Arcane magic. Three mages deal 3x as much damage as one mage. Three priests don't leave your party 3x as buffed.

    Having played a similar party once (only female spellcasters allowed), I'm inclined to disagree. The low level priest spell slots aren't that interesting, but at higher levels there is some competition between insects, buffs and summons - all of which are quite useful. In my game the (un)holy trio ended up filling different roles, with only Viconia devoted to buffing the party, Jaheira focusing on druid spells and Aerie switching between offensive and defensive spells as necessary. Thanks to the many summons, disablers and buffs, the girls could fight for a long time without losing steam.

    ThacoBellOrlonKronsteenGreenWarlock
  • CvijetaCvijeta Member Posts: 328
    Is it possible to change Viconias aligment if your charname is female and not romancing....

  • Abi_DalzimAbi_Dalzim Member Posts: 1,399
    Cvijeta said:

    Is it possible to change Viconias aligment if your charname is female and not romancing....

    Sure, just use the Helm of Opposite Alignment. You'll have to console it in, but it'll work. Otherwise, I don't think so.

    ThacoBellCrevsDaak
  • ThacoBellThacoBell Member Posts: 8,024
    Yeah, her lore friendly alignment change is only if you are romancing her.

    OrlonKronsteenCrevsDaak
  • DhariusDharius Member Posts: 267
    edited February 2017
    What about Neera? She's a decent Mage (and a specialist who can learn all spell types and get extra spell slots) but you need to be careful of her wild surges - and she's neutral so works with a lot of party combinations/reputations. If you're going to have a thief-type as your main character you won't need Imoen or Nalia for instance. Her side quests are a lot more extensive than Nalia's or Imoen's too, and extend further into the game. But she won't have access to thief skills and equipment of course...

    PS I wouldn't have both Aerie and the evil females (Hexxat/Viconia) in the same group personally as their alignments (and races) oppose - could end badly?

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  • CvijetaCvijeta Member Posts: 328
    edited February 2017
    No, I want to use only original npc, have no love for new ones.

    @SomeSort

    That's fine as it is, but I'd been ignoring the fact that archery is still *beastly* in SoA. Recently I've been grabbing her early, sneaking into the first floor of Watcher's Keep to get the unlimited Quiver (not necessary, but eases inventory management), handing her the Tuigan Shortbow, and letting her go nuts. It's not at all uncommon for Mazzy to account for 50% of my kills from Chapters 2-5, and she's the ultimate mage-interrupter. And by the time archery starts to lag in effectiveness, you will have gotten enough proficiency points to spec her into melee and let her transition seamlessly into her end-game configuration.


    How could you secure Mazzy early and how early would that be?

  • DhariusDharius Member Posts: 267
    edited February 2017
    Not sure how party xp works these days (in the 2.0 version) but personally if I had to choose between Nalia and Imoen for an all female party where the protagonist is a thief, I'd probably go for Nalia.

    on the plus side you get Nalia earlier and will probably have invested a lot of XP and spells into her by the time you find Imoen again. On the downside, Imoen's a better thief, is perhaps more relevant to the main stories and can pick up some bonuses if you keep her in TOB. But practically I think Nalia makes more sense here as a main mage through most of the game, unless you rush to rescue Imoen, which requires a bit of micromanagement


    Overall in your case I'd probably choose:
    Protagonist: Female Half Orc F/T, Assassin or Swashbuckler (any alignment) with high STR
    Front Line warriors: Mazzy, Jaheira
    Mages: Nalia and Imoen (I'd use Neera rather than Imoen but you said you don't want to try EE characters)
    Cleric: Viconia (not Aerie as you'll have a lot of mages and for the reason given above)


    I'd probably not want to take Hexxat at all - she's ok stats wise but I find her personality and quests (much like Dorn's) far too evil, even by evil standards (but I do like to use Vic/Edwin/Korgan as they seem less evil in comparison).

    Mazzy is quite easy to pick up early on in the game - here's the quickest way:

    After leaving Irenicus' dungeon travel to the slums and meet with Gealan Bayle for your main quest. Make sure you have a balanced party of 5 or 6 members (there are four NPCs in the Copper Coronet if you're short). Go to government district and speak to the boy Delon near the central fountain (if Minsc is in the party he automatically speaks with him and accepts the quest) Umar Hills should then appear on your map. The go to the City Gates district and pass through the gates to travel to the hills (you might have random encounters along the way). Once in Innesvale speak with the Mayor to get the quest, then travel to the ranger's hut in the west of the map. Pick up all items in the hut for evidence and directions to the temple ruins. Travel there, meet the wolfwere for more information then fight the shadows at the entrance to the ruins. In the first level of the ruins, take the first side passage from the main corridor and fight the shadows there. Mazzy is imprisoned nearby once freed will join your party to help defeat the Shadow boss at the end of the dungeon. Then travel back to Innesvale for your reward :)

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    Cvijeta
  • luskanluskan Member Posts: 269
    Nalia and Imoen are interchangeable - they do the exact same thing. From a thief/mage, you really only need Detect Traps to disarm. The spells Invisibility, Knock, True Sight, and Detect Traps spell to mark traps help offset their weaknesses. And note there's no plot related lock that can't be opened by one of these two. Potions of Perception / Thievery is a quick help, while the Rings of Lock Picks is a more permanent solution.

    Going though the game with my solo sorc, I can bypass most traps and locks with the one or more of the following active:

    Mirror Image
    Stoneskin
    Improved Invisibility (+4 to saves)
    Spell Immunity (for game over traps like Imprisionment)

    With a potion of antidote in a quick slot if it's a poison trap (before getting the Ring of Gaxx).
    Knock or bash with high strength to kick it open.

    So don't limit yourself to a Fighter / Thief unless you want to do things like backstab or set traps yourself.

    Oswald81
  • DhariusDharius Member Posts: 267
    edited February 2017
    Not sure I agree, if you don't have a decent thief in the party (and Imoen and Nalia are not good enough for this) you miss out on pickpocketing/stealing from stores which can provide some very useful gold/equipment you might not get otherwise. It makes the first few chapters much easier than expected.

    It's a risky but very rewarding (and legitimate, contrary to many players' beliefs) skill for a party to have.

    Post edited by Dharius on
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  • DhariusDharius Member Posts: 267
    edited February 2017
    @Cvijeta I've decided to try this myself :):

    My character is a True Neutral 1/2 Orc female Shadowdancer (I want to try the new kit basically) with 19 STR
    The party I'm aiming for is: Jaheira, Mazzy, Neera, Nalia, Viconia
    I'll see if it works out (never had a party of all one gender before...)

    Post edited by Dharius on
    CvijetaluskanCrevsDaak
  • luskanluskan Member Posts: 269
    Dharius said:

    Not sure I agree, if you don't have a decent thief in the party (and Imoen and Nalia are not good enough for this) you miss out on pickpocketing/stealing from stores which can provide some very useful gold/equipment you might not get otherwise. It makes the first few chapters much easier than expected.

    It's a risky but very rewarding (and legitimate, contrary to many players' beliefs) skill for a party to have.

    No need to spend extra points on that. The Gloves of Pickpocketing and Potions of Master Thievery is all you need. Wait until night so all of the fences are out, then go on a massive 4 hour stealing spree.

  • CvijetaCvijeta Member Posts: 328
    I am going to quit the game. Too hard for me, don't want to play any mod until I finish this game, thank you all for advices.

    NimranCrevsDaak
  • luskanluskan Member Posts: 269
    You can always lower the difficulty setting.
    What did your party end up being?

  • CvijetaCvijeta Member Posts: 328
    Half-elf fighter thief, aerie, viconia, Jaheira and Nalia. I couldn't get Mazzy at all in reasonable time and I was underpowered for almost every quest or fight, sadly.

  • luskanluskan Member Posts: 269
    Jaheira and your PC can be your tanks until you get Mazzy, while at the back Aerie and Nalia cast things like Slow and Glitterdust and other debuffs while Viconia buffs and summons Skelletons.

    Start with some easy quests like the Copper Coronet and Bridge District Murders and you should get a couple of levels under your belt, and go from there.

    CrevsDaak
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