Request - DMFI As Default Tools

NearEthereal

https://neverwintervault.org/project/nwn1/script/dmfi-v1-09-patch


This tool makes it easier to roll dice for skills, as well as emote, it also adds a tonne of DM tools for ease of use (VFX, Spawns, Affliction, Music, etc). Adding this as standard would be lovely.

ObaOba

idk, it's an handy tool for sure, but it's quite easy to import and add it to your module. It would be nice to have it as standard though.

NearEthereal

The reason I suggest this is because all PWs I've ever played on use either this, or SIM tools + this for DM interaction, dice rolls, extended emotes, etc. If everyone is using it as standard, then it should be standard.

ShadowM

No thank you, I already made an improved version of the dmfi tools.
https://neverwintervault.org/project/nwn1/other/tool/hr-dm-tool
And a improved base with even more added features. Include unlimited sound playing.
https://neverwintervault.org/project/nwn1/other/hr-base-1100a

Video LINK
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5b1-e7kmLPmaHo5TkVHUnk5aWM/view?usp=sharing

ObaOba

Maybe there could be some... featured erf included in the game? Included the DMFI and this override/hak
https://neverwintervault.org/project/nwn1/hakpak/original-hakpak/customize-character-override-hak-ccoh

Whitegrave

ShadowM said:

No thank you, I already made an improved version of the dmfi tools.
https://neverwintervault.org/project/nwn1/other/tool/hr-dm-tool
And a improved base with even more added features. Include unlimited sound playing.
https://neverwintervault.org/project/nwn1/other/hr-base-1100a

Video LINK
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5b1-e7kmLPmaHo5TkVHUnk5aWM/view?usp=sharing

Do you plan to release a CEP 2.6 compatible version?

ShadowM

Cep 2.6 1.69 version?, cep 2.6 74.8150 EE? With patches coming out every week or at least Beam Dog say that what they want to do, it might hard to keep with new features added. I try around the Christmas break to release updated version. Hope that helps.

NeverwinterWights

In theory it sounds nice but as ShadowM pointed out, a lot of people already used altered or improved versions. You'd have to find some consensus. Perhaps at least something that is not technically DMFI but similar in house tools/items that have same function as an option?

Whitegrave

@ShadowM if you do end up making an update, could you look to reduce the script count? While it's true your improvements give a lot more functionality, I was really surprised to see they were spread across a ton of scripts. Not ideal considering the resource limits.

ShadowM

Yes, others have mention that to me. I been meaning to cut down a lot of the scripts, but that be a big update to delve into and right now I just do not have the time. Yet another good reason I hope they update the resource limit for us all.

GM_ODA

NearEthereal said:

The reason I suggest this is because all PWs I've ever played on use either this, or SIM tools + this for DM interaction, dice rolls, extended emotes, etc. If everyone is using it as standard, then it should be standard.

Bloat is never good. Servers should (as they can now) choose which parts to add from a whole vault full of options. Most builders take seriously the need to be selective in what packages they add to their modules.

Meaning no disparagement (we use the DMFI ourselves) but I would hate to have to rework all the customizing we did of the DMFI (knocked out a boat load of redundant code and modified from there) to overcome some other version being in-built to NWN. DMFI is great, but please, let us builders pick and choose what we want in our own modules, we have our reasons.