Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!

Categories

New Premium Module: Tyrants of the Moonsea! Read More
Attention, new and old users! Please read the new rules of conduct for the forums, and we hope you enjoy your stay!

New Kickstarter RPG: THORVALLA by Guido Henkel (producer of Plancescape: Torment!)

eksterekster Member Posts: 234
So, I've been going through kickster and just noticed this game by Guido Henkel.

Most of us know the games he was working on, if not him: Fallout 2, Realms of Arkania, Neverwinter Nights, Jagged Alliance... and most importantly, produced Planescape: Torment.

The new RPG isn't yet decided on how it will be exactly, but seems like he will be going for a top down view, turn based. It'll be based on Norse mythology, tribal mysticism and sword-and-sorcery fantasy. There will also be companions to take along with you, with interactions and dialogue. And there will be dragons!

I really like it how it's described so far, hopefully the updates won't disappoint!

Here's a few snippets from the kickstarter:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/g3studios/thorvalla-an-rpg-by-guido-henkel

"Featuring single-player party-based play, Thorvalla allows you to take advantage of the traits and abilities of a variety of NPCs that you can add to your party as the story unfolds. Along with meaningful character interaction and a wealth of dialogue, these kinds of decisions influence not only how the story evolves but also the strategies you will have to apply in order to succeed and progress through the game. Unlike modern RPGs, in Thorvalla, there won’t be any babysitting the player, funneling you down a virtually linear path of no-defeat. This is going to be an RPG where you will have to save your game… often."

"In addition, instead of providing a huge one-piece game world—which typically end up being mostly barren landscapes—the game hearkens back to more traditional computer role-playing games, by implementing a system that focuses on specific areas and connects them through a map.
As in the Realms of Arkania games, the travel map will be one of the most exciting features, actually, as countless events, missions and encounters are hidden in the map that will be unlocked as the story unfolds. Occasionally, you will find a hidden path, based on information you may have obtained elsewhere. At other times you may find yourself ambushed, while on other occasions yet, you may just have managed to avoid a trap as the result of one of your characters’ many skills. Camping, hunting, gathering, discovering, and healing are just a few of the exciting possibilities the map has to offer the daring adventurer."

"But first things, first. Like all serious role playing games, Thorvalla begins with Character Creation. The game will allow you to personalize the look of your character along with certain traits and skills. Choose from eight different classes, each with their own strengths and weaknesses, then go ahead and balance out your skills. With a wealth of skills, ranging from the use of certain weapons to things such as sneaking and tracking, you will be able to customize your character to your needs. "

Kristie83

Comments

  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 15,981
  • CyhortCyhort Member Posts: 78
    "This is going to be an RPG where you will have to save your game… often."

    Had me until this. Not a fan of constantly reloading.

  • eksterekster Member Posts: 234
    Cyhort said:

    "This is going to be an RPG where you will have to save your game… often."
    Had me until this. Not a fan of constantly reloading.

    I doubt that it will be literally constant reloading. I don't see it being any harder than Fallout 2, Torment or Baldur's Gate. Those games needed a lot of saving and they weren't silly easy... you actually had to either try and figure out the enemy's weakness, or try different tactics as the same 'go here, punch there' wouldn't work all the time. And that's what I see them making here. Not another console button masher RPG, but an actual TPG game that requires you to play it.

  • elminsterelminster Member, Developer Posts: 15,981
    ekster said:

    Cyhort said:

    "This is going to be an RPG where you will have to save your game… often."
    Had me until this. Not a fan of constantly reloading.

    I doubt that it will be literally constant reloading. I don't see it being any harder than Fallout 2, Torment or Baldur's Gate. Those games needed a lot of saving and they weren't silly easy... you actually had to either try and figure out the enemy's weakness, or try different tactics as the same 'go here, punch there' wouldn't work all the time. And that's what I see them making here. Not another console button masher RPG, but an actual TPG game that requires you to play it.
    So it may not be like dragon age origins? Where 1 spell (cone of cold) could get you most if not all of the way safely through the game (on normal difficulty on the PC). Thats nuts. I want my 1 OP spell please :p

  • eksterekster Member Posts: 234
    Forget about that one OP spell that let's you win the whole game... how about the tactics of Wild Arms 4, a PS2 RPG that I have a horrible memory of playing.

    There's no game over in that game. Anytime you lose a battle, you just restart that battle and continue on! No saving required at all. :D

    But in all honesty, I have full confidence in Guido Henkel making a game that will be fun, challenging and interesting. He's already responsible for 2 of my favourite games, Fallout 2 and Placescape: Torment. And he was already complaining back then about Interplay and the management team screwing up with the development when making Torment... and he still succeeded in creating that game. I'd love to see what they can accomplish without someone breathing over their necks this time. :D

  • ShinShin Member Posts: 2,338
    "One thing we can tell you, however, is that the game will in part be inspired by trading card games. Don’t misunderstand, however. Thorwalla is not a card game! Instead, it functions much more like a traditional RPG with turn-based combat. The difference will be in that the cards represent, supplement and enhance the characters’ abilities, much in the way traditional character attributes do."

    That makes me very hesitant, TCG's and their mechanics never really appealed to me.

  • bigdogchrisbigdogchris Member Posts: 1,336
    edited November 2012
    Torment isn't as popular as some people may think it is and so far the lack of interest in this Kickstarter is affirming that. I'm just not sure a PST:EE would ever happen because I believe the sales would be so low.

    That said, this KS doesn't seem very interesting to me. When one of the primary selling points is "lots of dragons" and "riding dragons", I get turned off to the product. Dragons are cool when they are rare. Saturating a game with dragons is not fun or unique.

    But overall it seems like the guy has spent more time working on KS rewards information than the game itself. I definitely support more 'classic' RPG's though. To get excited, I need more than a guy sitting in a chair with a few non-sequitur talking points.

    ajwzmlnevese
  • eksterekster Member Posts: 234
    Torment might not be popular in the general gaming community, but I do believe that there aren't many people in the RPG comunity who haven't played it or haven't heard of it. And all the new kickstarter projects with the BG series getting enhanced edition, I only see it becoming more popular.

    As for the game itself, I think it's a bit too soon to say much, but Guido Henkel does have a good history of games and of writing. At least in my opinion.

    Plus, I really welcome the change in settings. Vikings and Norse mythology is underused and overshadowed too much by DnD, Tolkien and the likes. So I'm hoping they'll be able to succeed with this kickstarter. I've already have 2 kickstarters I'm waiting for anxiously, and a third would be a great addition. I'm actually hoping that a lot of the KS projects succeed... what I've seen on KS in a few months has been far more interesting than the majority of 'RPG's I've seen in the last 5 years.

  • eksterekster Member Posts: 234
    http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/g3studios/thorvalla-an-rpg-by-guido-henkel/posts/353338

    They've released quite a detailed update on some core parts of the game.

    The 9 classes are
    Warrior
    Scout
    Shadow Dancer - a Thief-like class
    Monk - a tank with some basic magic abilities
    Druid - a tank mage with focus on magic based in nature
    Wizard/Witch
    Sorcerer
    Demonizer - a spell caster class that draw its powers from demons of all shapes and forms

    As for the cards in combat part, looks like it might not be for everyone but it sounds very interesting to me. It will definitely make every battle very tactic oriented and different from one another, so no mindless 'attack, attack, attack, boom', and repeat times 1,000. It's a bit hard to describe, but they did describe it in pretty good details under combat.

  • LemernisLemernis Member, Moderator Posts: 4,264
    I think the Norse angle is potentially very rich. Runecasting, shamanism, plus their pantheon. Perhaps battles at sea. I think I would probably have a go at this, if/when it ever gets made. Although I can't say that I am enthused enough yet to contribute. I would need to quite a bit more specifics and looks at the game itself.

    Sily
  • mlnevesemlnevese Member, Moderator Posts: 9,698
    edited November 2012
    The cardgame aspect actually worries me. I have seen it done on other games and it never felt right. I'd rather have dice rolls or straight skill comparison in my RPGs.

    Cyhortsmeagolheart
  • eksterekster Member Posts: 234
    Yeah, hopefully they will take time to properly implement the cards in combat.

    And new update: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/g3studios/thorvalla-an-rpg-by-guido-henkel/posts/353823?ref=activity

    About companions... when talking about the two different methods: either you have a fully fleshed out companion with background, story, etc. that already has a class, attributes and the likes picked, or create your own from scratch(basically, BG/Torment vs Icewind Dale), they want to combine both.

    "What if we could combine these two general approaches? Well, perhaps we can. In Thorvalla we will create a hybrid of these two systems. Let me elaborate, step by step.

    As the game begins you will create your own hero character. The opening storyline will be ambivalent enough to make sure players can pick male or female characters and then go through the whole spiel of determining the character’s class attributes. Feel free to take a gander at yesterday’s update An Overview for more details about character attributes, skills and traits.

    The game then starts with this one character and very soon, our hero(ine) will meet an NPC who is willing to join the party. What happens next is putting the control back into your hands.

    While the NPC willing to join you might be a centaur and you may not have an option to change that particular fact, you will now get back into a character generation screen that will allow you to make modifications to that centaur character. You will roll the attributes, but more importantly, you will be able to determine the class of the character as well, along with his traits. It’s not just a question whether he’ll be strong or weak. We are talking the entire gamut here. It means that the centaur who just joined you can be a Warrior for one player, but a Sorcerer for another player. The choice is entirely up to you, and it is my way of giving control back to the player, even though he is dealing with a recruitable character."

    This was my biggest dilemma with BG (and still is, but Shadowkeeper solved it for now), so that idea sounds great to me.

  • hummer010hummer010 Member Posts: 95
    So, with only 22 days to go, and $961,321 left to find, I figure this one isn't going to happen.

  • eksterekster Member Posts: 234
    There's still a chance, and I'm hoping that will change soon. This weekend was probably dead due to Thanksgiving and people killing stampeding in Walmart... so I'm hoping it will pick up now.

    These guys appear to be very serious about it, and the updates they've been releasing so far are amazing. They latest one includes a brief animated demo of how the game will look. So far, beautiful!

  • eksterekster Member Posts: 234
    edited December 2012
    Well, there needs to be a real miracle for it to happen with 17 days to go... which is a shame as the direction it's going in is great.

    If anyone's interested, they've just added a new update with how the game art will look like. It definitely has potential to be a beautiful game. Here's a video of the sample. If you get the small Unity3D plugin and look at the update, you can see the below in a much better res and be able to zoom in and out yourself.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=A4_UftTDETA

    drawnacrol
  • drawnacroldrawnacrol Member Posts: 248
    The game looks pretty promising but they started the kickstarter way to soon after Project Eternity and to close to Christmas. I don't think I can see it hitting its target but fingers crossed it does!

  • eksterekster Member Posts: 234
    Yeah, unfortunately, it got cancelled. Sounded great though. I was looking forward to a viking RPG. :\

    drawnacrol
  • CluasCluas Member Posts: 355
    It was a very promising game. Too bad with the cancellation

Sign In or Register to comment.