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Toolset very slow to open properties on placeables (Windows 10)

XailaXaila Member Posts: 1
This is an issue that seemed to be popping up for several people I know (and myself) on Windows 10. It takes 10-15 seconds or longer for the object properties menu to open. I was reminded of it because someone on Discord mentioned having the same problem last night. It seems to afflict the NWN:EE toolset too just as badly. I'm going to see how it does on my Windows 7 work laptop later to see how it compares.

Does anyone know what causes this and if there's any kind of solution? The huge lag in opening the menus gets tedious. It would be really nice if NWN:EE (eventually) fixed the glitchy issues with the toolset in Windows 10.

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  • GlassmelterGlassmelter Member Posts: 37
    Yes, I'm having this problem too. Sometimes, I even have to go down into the task bar and click the toolset icon to get the window to pop up at all. I'm using Windows 10 as well.

  • ProphetSwordProphetSword Member Posts: 23
    As I recall, it has always been slow. I think it was even slow on Windows XP.

  • FeardainFeardain Member Posts: 12
    Once the toolset will be loadable as a 64bit these sort of issues should go away.

  • SherincallSherincall Member Posts: 147
    Feardain said:

    Once the toolset will be loadable as a 64bit these sort of issues should go away.

    32bit has nothing to do with this. I'm not sure what the cause is (guessing missing 2da caching for CNWRules), but it definitely isn't lack of memory, or lack of general purpose registers - the only two benefits 64bit brings.

  • PstemariePstemarie Member Posts: 48
    edited January 9

    Yes, I'm having this problem too. Sometimes, I even have to go down into the task bar and click the toolset icon to get the window to pop up at all. I'm using Windows 10 as well.

    I have this identical issue - having to click on the taskbar. I noticed it seems to begin occurring if I open the properties window by clicking on the placeable in the area drop down menu on the left side of the area viewer port.

    I have tried setting the toolset toolset to run under "high" priority. This greatly reduced the amount of time it takes to actually open the placeable properties window, but had no impact on the other issue.

    One other issue I've noticed:

    Models do not render in the viewport for the Preview Window. If you hover over the window, they flicker into existence, but quickly disappear again.

  • ZwerkulesZwerkules Member Posts: 29
    The properties window always took rather long to open, but nowhere near the time it does on Windows 10. This has nothing to do with the EE though, the problem is the same with older versions. I also saw people mention that for them the property window sometimes opens behind the toolset window. This is also not a problem that EE introduced, it is the same with 1.69.

    tsunami282
  • virusmanvirusman Member Posts: 42
    edited February 12
    This is because the Toolset populates the combo boxes in Scripts tab, and inserting thousands of scripts into every single one of them takes a few seconds (every insertion sends a message to the underlying Win32 control). No solution other than disabling script autocompletion has been found so far.

    ZwerkulesSherincall
  • SherincallSherincall Member Posts: 147
    Hrm.. Deferring the delay to until you switch to the scripts tab is a simple way to fix most cases. People _usually_ don't care about the scripts.

  • HimmelweissHimmelweiss Member Posts: 29
    virusman said:

    This is because the Toolset populates the combo boxes in Scripts tab, and inserting thousands of scripts into every single one of them takes a few seconds (every insertion sends a message to the underlying Win32 control). No solution other than disabling script autocompletion has been found so far.

    And where exactly do you turn "script autocompletion" off? I can't find it

  • BalanorBalanor Member Posts: 101
    I'm pretty sure he's referring to what he did when he wrote the NWNTX application for NWN 1.69. There is no out-of-the-box option to turn script autocompletion off in the EE toolset.

  • virusmanvirusman Member Posts: 42
    Yes, I'm referring to NWNTX. I think there is no event handler for tab switches, so hooking that from NWNTX isn't possible.

  • FinalStandFinalStand Member Posts: 39
    Same here, on windows 7.

    I'd like to see that as an option in EE toolset, to be able to disable it. I would even question how useful it is. If there are hundreds or thousands of scripts, it doesn't help much and will probably open up script/manager any way.





  • HimmelweissHimmelweiss Member Posts: 29
    Ok *sad face*

    But if that is really the reason why the toolset is so super slow i seriously want it disabled ASAP :D

  • TarotRedhandTarotRedhand Member Posts: 224
    edited February 18
    Errrm, I'm not noticing this. Quite the contrary in fact. I run a dual boot win 10/win 7 PC. With 1.69 on win 7 32 bit it takes upwards of 30 seconds to open any properties. With EE on win 10 64 bit it takes around 5 seconds. Remember this is on the same hardware. Is it maybe a hardware problem and not so much a software one? FWIW my processor is an i5-4590 quad core running at 3.3 gig and I only have 8 gig of memory.

    TR

  • virusmanvirusman Member Posts: 42
    30 seconds??? How do you work with that?
    As I mentioned, it makes tens of thousands of system calls to the controls, so it largely depends on the OS, not the hardware. If you compare both 1.69 and EE on the same system, I think there will be no difference.

  • TarotRedhandTarotRedhand Member Posts: 224
    30 seconds??? How do you work with that?
    As I mentioned, it makes tens of thousands of system calls to the controls, so it largely depends on the OS, not the hardware. If you compare both 1.69 and EE on the same system, I think there will be no difference.

    @virusman Re. 30 seconds. If that was what I had to work with, I just coped (read "war and peace", drank a gallon of coffee, etc. :) )

    Re. Compare on same system - I thought I just did...

    TR

  • virusmanvirusman Member Posts: 42
    I meant operating system, of course. That matters a lot more than the hardware.

  • HimmelweissHimmelweiss Member Posts: 29
    edited February 21
    it takes 5-10 seconds here at most, but it drives me nuts...

    But 30 Seconds? holy s... i would totally freak out and rage quit :D

  • TarotRedhandTarotRedhand Member Posts: 224
    EE on win 10 64 bit is by far the fastest I've had. My only problem is that most of my tools are still on win 7 (play 2 at least hands of spider solitaire on my phone while that boots)...

    Or to misquote a well known song "So how can you tell me your load is so slow..."

    TR

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