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Can you backstab with Katanas, Wakazashis and Ninja-tos?

Oxford_GuyOxford_Guy Member Posts: 3,729
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Can a thief or stalker backstab with Katanas, Wakazashis and Ninja-tos? I'm assuming they can (the Scarlet Ninja-to excepted until UAI, as only Monks can use that), as thieves can gain prioficiency in these weapons, but just wanted to confirm, as the Devs have hinted there will be some available (including magic ones) in BGEE...

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  • SharnSharn Member Posts: 188
    Yes, well, you could in BG2, I did a lot of backstabbing with Katana's.
  • colonel_burgercolonel_burger Member Posts: 279
    edited November 2012
    Yes all 1handed edged weapons can be used for backstabbing, except axes.
    So that's long swords, Bastard swords, daggers, short swords, katanas, wakazashis, ninjatos, and scimitars.
  • AnduinAnduin Member Posts: 5,745
    You can't bury a hatchet into some ones back ! ? !

    Yet you can slash a katana (so designed as when pulling the sword from the scabbard allows a cutting / killing upward stroke, thus ENDING a sword fight before its begun... Wiki it) into some ones back... Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

    I feel that bad about it... I could make a feature request...

    Oh in answer to the question. Yes. I am making my multi class thief use drizzt's scimitars... Duelled of course...
  • Oxford_GuyOxford_Guy Member Posts: 3,729
    colonel_burger said:

    Yes all 1handed edged weapons can be used for backstabbing, except axes.
    So that's long swords, Bastard swords, daggers, short swords, katanas, wakazashis, ninjatos, and scimitars.

    Thanks ...and clubs and quarter staves, of course
  • MungriMungri Member Posts: 1,645
    colonel_burger said:

    Yes all 1handed edged weapons can be used for backstabbing, except axes.
    So that's long swords, Bastard swords, daggers, short swords, katanas, wakazashis, ninjatos, and scimitars.

    Dont think you can with bastard swords, only with weapons that a thief can use.
  • AHFAHF Member Posts: 1,376
    The answer is that any melee weapon that is usable by a vanilla thief can be used for backstabbing so that includes staffs, clubs, etc.

    Axes are not usable by a vanilla thief so they can't be used to backstab.
  • AnduinAnduin Member Posts: 5,745
    Bastard swords no... Although I would love the ability to thrust one of those bad boys through an enemies back so they can look in horror as it emerges from their chest...

    Hang on, you can't bury a hatchet into a back... This is wrong... Have I said this? Very wrong...
  • DinsdalePiranhaDinsdalePiranha Member Posts: 419
    everything usable by a single class thief can be backstabbed with - this is actually what someone needs to modify if they wanna turn the weapon into an instrument of organ-popping. (or are just bored with switching back and forth between Usuno's Blade and Scarlet Ninja-To)

    the Level 1 NPCs mod even had a component to mass-modify backstab capabilities of the weapons in the same way.
  • NymMoondownNymMoondown Member Posts: 220
    Are you sure you can backstab with a quarterstaff?
    I remeber in BG2 it was not possibile (I've tried to use the staff of mage with a thief/wizard and I couldn't backstab).

  • ryuken87ryuken87 Member Posts: 563
    edited December 2012
    Staff of the Magi is not usuable by a single class thief without UAI, therefore you can't backstab with it. Other staffs are fine.

    The same rule applies for the Scarlet Ninja-to for example, and I believe (in an incorrect adherence to the rule) Valygar's Corthola blade.
  • bbearbbear Member Posts: 1,180
    To add to the above list, the bastard sword Jhor the Bleeder +2 from the underdark in BG2 cant backstab (from my previous gameplay). There are some specific weapons in the game cannot be used for backstab.
  • ryuken87ryuken87 Member Posts: 563
    @bbear No bastard swords can be used to backstab, they aren't useable by single class thieves without UAI!
  • bbearbbear Member Posts: 1,180
    yea, that's what i thought too...I was playing w/ a FMT, so I got that mix up.
  • RhymeRhyme Member Posts: 190
    There's a difference between a battle axe and a hatchet, though I'm not sure if that difference matters when it comes to delivering a devastating backstab (and if you don't think you can backstab with a hatchet, the makers of Assassin's Creed 3 would like to have some words with you).

    Realistically, if you can get behind somebody, you can mess their shizz up. But if we're talking about realism, there's a lot about the "hide in shadows" game mechanic that is kind of silly, and whether or not you're hidden should be irrelevant to a successful backstab. Do you have access to the person's back? Do you have a weapon? Congratulations. BACKSTAB!

    As for katanas, OF COURSE you can backstab with a katana. Or have you forgotten...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJU5MuMH6Tw

    If it had happened in the Infinity Engine, she would have been insta-chunked.
  • ZanathKariashiZanathKariashi Member Posts: 2,869
    Any weapon usable by a single class thief WITHOUT UAI....items that require UAI can't backstab even if they're otherwise the proper weapon type.
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