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Sorta stuck with Neera, Rassad, and Wilson

I looked up the character list, and seems like there's a hidden character, Wilson. To get him, I need to do Rassad quest and Neera quest. I already have Rassad, and have the Amphitheater and forest revealed on my World Map. I read that I need to start the Wilson quest during Neera's quest, and Wilson is found during Rasaad's quest.

What I'm stuck at is this:

I still have Edwin, and waiting for his Edwina female quest to finish. Neera and Edwin can't be in the same party, same as in BG 1. So, how can I get to the Wild Mage Refuge to start the quest to get Wilson, *WITHOUT* recruiting Neera and having her romance auto-start the instant she joins? I want to postpone her romance because I don't want to add a romance interest until I'm done with ALL the other characters.

I'm not sure if Rassad's quest is timed or not. Can I wait on his quest until Edwin's quest finishes, AND I get Neera (or avoid her romance somehow)?

I am saving Aerie, Jahiera, Neera, and Viconia to become my last join-able NPC's so I can decide who I want to romance. I find that aspect more and more irritating, because in real life, romances don't start the instant you meet someone. Plus your romance doesn't break in real life with no way of recovering it when your date goes home, goes to work, visits her family or friends, or other stuff away from you. Seems like the BG romances can't handle being away from their love interest for 1 second, even right after meeting for the first time.

If there's no way to avoid Neera starting romance when I need to get to Wild Mage Refuge to start the quest to get Wilson and recruit him during Rassad's quest... Is there a mod, cheat, hack, whatever to reset Neera's romance to "not started yet" and then start her romance whenever I want it?

Comments

  • ilduderinoilduderino Member Posts: 96
    I’m not sure if the Neera romance ends if you drop her - I note you are thinking about adding back Jaheira as a romance option later, if she has left the party unless at the point where she is required to by her quest then that one’s been lost I’m afraid

  • VeristekVeristek Member Posts: 42
    Not quite. I've tested Jahiera. I dismissed her on the Promenade map after the Irencius vs Thieves / Wizards fight, and before leaving the map. This was in Chapter 1. She left without "I thought we were closer than companions" comment, and she can be picked up again at the Harper's Hold. I then took her with me and started Chapter 2, and then she gave that "closer than companions" comment.

    Jahiera's romance can be paused when you drop her in Chapter 1, and can be picked up and start romance with her anytime after that when we're ready to have her come back into party anytime later.

    I wish we have this option for Aerie, Neera, and Viconia.

    I cleared the Wild Forest, revealed the Wild Mage Refuge, but I can't get in without Neera. If I pick her up to get inside the gates by the guard, then Edwin leaves my party (I need him around until his female Edwina quest finishes), and Neera's romance starts up because she joins my party. I need to get in the stockade to talk to the guy who starts the Wilson quest. I've read that if I want to get Wilson, I have to talk to this Zevran guy, otherwise I can't get Wilson when I go to the Temple with Rasaad (who I already have in party).

  • Balrog99Balrog99 Member Posts: 3,988
    Can Neera and Edwin be in the same party if one of them is Control Q'd?

  • Humanoid_TaifunHumanoid_Taifun Member Posts: 861
    If I were you I would probably just cheat to speed up Edwin's quest, or otherwise plainly wait out the timers.

    But you should be careful with Rasaad's quest. There is a very challenging battle at the end that you may not be ready for, what with you not even having your final party yet. I do not know if you want to head in this direction yet.

    gorgonzola
  • ThacoBellThacoBell Member Posts: 8,343
    You don't have to finish Neera's quest. Just talk to the hippie at her camp and WIlson will be recruitable when you find him in Rasaad's quest.

  • OrlonKronsteenOrlonKronsteen Member Posts: 634
    edited April 12
    IIRC you don’t need Neera at all to get Wilson - just Rasaad. I think the hippie quest is just a small sidequest. Can anyone else confirm this?

    Edit: I second @Humanoid_Taifun’s comment about that end battle being extremely difficult at low level.

  • gorgonzolagorgonzola Member Posts: 2,210
    Edit: I second @Humanoid_Taifun’s comment about that end battle being extremely difficult at low level.
    yep, but not for a player playing the game the first time...
    ;) :D

    OrlonKronsteen
  • MaurvirMaurvir Member Posts: 74
    Yeah, I know my party wasn't prepared for that last fight in Rasaad's quest. However, I was both mildly annoyed, and potentially in trouble, when my conjurer MC got to do all of his challenges. Not only was she scary close to the limit on one of the challenges, but the "last" one (assuming you go left to right as seems to be intended) was damn near impossible without very careful micromanagment. I had to reload a few times before I finally found a solution to that one.

  • jsavingjsaving Member Posts: 457
    Just keep in mind that BG2 wasn't in any way designed for the kind of run-through you are attempting (seeing all content at once). So it is not surprising at all that an intricate juggling act is required to do it.

    gorgonzola
  • VeristekVeristek Member Posts: 42
    edited April 15
    I've been away from BG and gaming for a few days cuz of real life stuff. My basic question boils down to this:

    1) "Is it necessary to visit the hippie guy inside the WIld Mage Refuge (requiring Neera to open up the stockade) to make Wilson appear and be recruitable in Rassad's temple quest area?"

    2) "Does Wilson appear and recruitable without needing that hippie guy and Wild Mage Refuge, as long as I interact with him during the first time I enter that temple area during Rassad's quest?"

    I need clarification on this. Which is true, #1 or #2? Skip Neera entering the Wild Mage Refuge entirely and get Wilson during Rassad's quest? Or do I *HAVE* to get Neera, open up the door to the Refuge with her, go talk to the hippie in there, and only then will Wilson appear / spawn in Rassad's quest temple area? Which one is it?

  • ThacoBellThacoBell Member Posts: 8,343
    @Veristek I'm 80% certain its #1. You can take Neera and open the camp, talk to the hippie guy, then dump Neera. Then go pick up Wilson.

  • gorgonzolagorgonzola Member Posts: 2,210
    but he is not sure if he is going to romance her later and don't want to dump her cause it can break the romance...

  • VeristekVeristek Member Posts: 42
  • ThacoBellThacoBell Member Posts: 8,343
    Well, if you want to romance Neera, you cannot drop her. Ever. You will only need Rasaad long enough to talk to Wilson. But if you ever want to finish his quest, you'll need to keep him at least that long. So you'll have to drop two other party members for awhile.

  • VeristekVeristek Member Posts: 42
    My problem is, how do I get Wilson without picking up Neera, if that skipping is even possible? So I can get Wilson, finish Rasaad's quest, then go start Neera's stuff whenever I want to romance her?

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