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Why i like Warhammer Fantasy more than 40,000

ShapiroKeatsDarkMageShapiroKeatsDarkMage Member Posts: 2,379
edited May 19 in Off-Topic
I know i am in the minority and i might sound ''heretical'' but i find myself more interested in the original fantasy battle version of Warhammer than its space opera counterpart 40k for the following reasons.

1. The empire of Karl Franz is more nuanced and likeable than the pretentious nazi-puritans of the imperium.

2. Skaven are the most hilarious villains in most gaming universe.

3. The Dwarf Trollslayers and Giantslayers. Chaotic Good barbarian dwarves with a mohawk who regularly kill monsters much bigger than them.

4. Some of the best vampires in any canon.

5. Fantasy chaos warriors are blood thirsty psychotic Vikings who listen to bands like Slayer and venerate their ancestors >>> 40k chaos space marines are like edgy teenagers who listen to bands like Seether and have daddy issues and they are Sith and Mandalorian fanboys.

6. Landmarks and geography with history and character all over the place. 40k has few notable places that feature continually in the fluff (this is due to 40k's vastly larger galactic scope).

7. Fantasy has no invincible Mary Sues that I can think of (vs 40k and its several Matt Ward creations)

8. Dark elves more nuanced, seductive and interesting than the campy edgelords dark eldar

9. 40k is too fixated on Space Marines, Chaos and Orks while other cool factions (Necrons, Tau and Tyranids) get the shaft.

10. Fantasy was a better tabletop game. It had its issues with barriers to entry but once you got over those it was amazing. 40k was/is more or less decided during list building (same with age of sigmar); fantasy was decided on the battlefield. I feel mentally drained after a 4 hour 3000 PT game of fantasy. I am usually thinking about stuff I have to do at home an hour into a game of 40k.

11. Fantasy seems like an amazing place to run a detailed and darkly humurous D&D style RPG. The villains are real people and not over the top screaming warlords turned sour by the system. All these groups just fighting to survive on one planet. It’s got weight.

12. Fantasy is a light hearted dark comedy, while 40k tries too hard to be grimdark and controversial.

@Balrog99 @HalfOrcBeastmaster @sarevok57

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  • typo_tillytypo_tilly Member Posts: 5,638
    I wonder if you're on to something with the planets... I mean, who cares if a million random planets are destroyed or captured in some new conflict? It's not as concrete as some sacred mountain being ransacked. About the only thing place I remotely care about is the world Armageddon, because the orks keep trying to take it.

    In 40K, I like a lot of the plot points and factions... the old ones, the c'tan, the necrons, the orks, the eldar gods, and even the eldar jester faction. But all characters and factions seem so powerful, the nids and the marines especially. At the very least, Fantasy has weaker factions that are routinely defeated. For Fantasy, I just ignore the Storm of Chaos and The End Times plots.

    ShapiroKeatsDarkMage
  • ShapiroKeatsDarkMageShapiroKeatsDarkMage Member Posts: 2,379
    typo_tilly wrote: »
    I wonder if you're on to something with the planets... I mean, who cares if a million random planets are destroyed or captured in some new conflict? It's not as concrete as some sacred mountain being ransacked. About the only thing place I remotely care about is the world Armageddon, because the orks keep trying to take it.

    In 40K, I like a lot of the plot points and factions... the old ones, the c'tan, the necrons, the orks, the eldar gods, and even the eldar jester faction. But all characters and factions seem so powerful, the nids and the marines especially. At the very least, Fantasy has weaker factions that are routinely defeated. For Fantasy, I just ignore the Storm of Chaos and The End Times plots.

    Don't get me wrong, i like 40k (my favorite faction is the Tau) but certain parts it are frustrating.

    It's a shame GW discontinued Warhammer Fantasy right when the Total War games re-sparked interest in it.

    Age of Sigmar looks cool though.

  • typo_tillytypo_tilly Member Posts: 5,638
    I've enjoyed Total War Warhammer 2! :) Lizard people! I'm hoping we see ogres and chaos dwarfs in 3. :smiley:

  • ShapiroKeatsDarkMageShapiroKeatsDarkMage Member Posts: 2,379
    typo_tilly wrote: »
    I've enjoyed Total War Warhammer 2! :) Lizard people! I'm hoping we see ogres and chaos dwarfs in 3. :smiley:

    Aztec Lizardfolks riding dinosaurs into battle. How can you not love 'em?

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