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I have a question about a possible character editor....

I had heard a little while back about the possibility of there being a character editor, when the player missed some item/weapon/skill/etc, that player can simply "add" what is missing to their character. I mean, if I missed an item with one of my characters, I don't want to start over again just to play through a certain part of the game. For example, I have a fighter build that missed a particular weapon in the first chapter. I don't want to have to start over again and play through the first chapter again to get that weapon. I heard there is a character editor that can give me the weapon in question. Has anyone heard about this sort of thing?
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  • jpsweeney94jpsweeney94 Member Posts: 93
    Are you just playing one of the NWN campaigns? Why not just use the console to drop the item in?
  • ProlericProleric Member Posts: 1,281
    To spawn an item, enter the following in the chat window

    ##DebugMode 1
    ##dm_spawnitem <resref>

    where <resref> is a code from this list.

    To edit your character in almost every other respect, use Leto.

    When building and equipping a new character, Pretty Good Character Creator may be simpler.
  • NeveroddoreveNNeveroddoreveN Member Posts: 173
    Proleric - I am getting this message: ##DebugMode 1 Function Debug Mode Not Found..... Granted, Debugmode 1 is the first line of the message, and Function Debug Mode Not Found is the second line. Maybe I am doing something wrong? Please help!
  • ProlericProleric Member Posts: 1,281
    The command must be entered exactly as written, capital D and M with no space.

    In the chat window, ##DebugMode 1.

    Alternatively, if you are using the tilda rather than the chat window to open the console, omit the ##.
  • NeveroddoreveNNeveroddoreveN Member Posts: 173
    Got it! Thanks so, so much!
  • NeveroddoreveNNeveroddoreveN Member Posts: 173
    How do I use Leto for character editing? I have made a monk, but his strength is very low (I have never played as a monk before, I plead ignorance), almost unplayable. Once I download the program, how do I use it?
  • ZaxaresZaxares Member Posts: 1,325
    Open up Leto, then browse to the localvault subdirectory where you've installed NWN. That's where all your character files are saved. (To export a character from the game, just click "Export Character" from the main menu when you press Esc.) From there, just make the requisite changes you want, and then save.

    There's also a way to edit characters that are in the midst of an actual module, although I've never done that myself, so maybe somebody else can answer that.
  • ProlericProleric Member Posts: 1,281
    Leto comes with detailed help information. If you don't see it at start up, Menu > Help will show you.

    Before editing a character, you need to decide whether you simply want to improve the character before starting a new game, or whether you want to edit the character in a saved game so that you can continue with the same game.

    The former is easier. Your character is held in a .bic file in Documents\Neverwinter Nights\localvault. In Leto, close the help window if necessary, then Menu > File > Open that file. Change the fields you want e.g. Strength then Menu > File > Save As.

    If you want to edit a character from a saved game but use the result to start a new one, in the game itself, load the save, then choose Options > Save Character. Now you will have a new .bic file in localvault which you can edit as above.

    To edit a saved game so that you can continue with it, read the step-by-step instructions in the help file. The character editor is the same, but the file you need to edit is different. Look in the saves subfolder (not localvault) and open the subfolder for the save in question. Don't open the .bic file in this case - the one you want to edit is a section of the .sav file called module.ifo. Sorry this is complicated, it's simply how the game works.
  • NeveroddoreveNNeveroddoreveN Member Posts: 173
    I just downloaded LETO, and found my the character that I want to augment. I made the changes that I would need, but there is no button or indicator as to how I save my changes. I see how to change stats, vitals, etc. but I do not see the option to save my changes.
  • ShadowMShadowM Member Posts: 573
    I just downloaded LETO, and found my the character that I want to augment. I made the changes that I would need, but there is no button or indicator as to how I save my changes. I see how to change stats, vitals, etc. but I do not see the option to save my changes.

    Click on menu (upper left corner, it will have a drop-down that has file / save as) click on the character file and it will as for conformation of changes.
  • NeveroddoreveNNeveroddoreveN Member Posts: 173
    Ok, so I went to "save as" to save my character, made the desired stat changes in Leto and went to save my character - I got a message that I should make a backup copy of the character, in case Leto corrupts the file. So I had two character files in my local folder. I saved the stat changes on the first of the two files, closed Leto, and loaded NWN:EE - the stats have not changed. What am I doing wrong here? I am sorry if I am missing something, this is all quite new to me.
  • ProlericProleric Member Posts: 1,281
    If there are two files, are you sure you opened the right one in character creation in game?

    Do the files look different when loaded in Leto?

    Did you actually Save As after making the backup?
  • NeveroddoreveNNeveroddoreveN Member Posts: 173
    On a whim, I tried going to the main menu and selected using a pre-made character for Chapter One, and was able to load the correct character. But, that would start the Chapter over from the beginning, and my current character that I have been playing is close to the end of Chapter One. I am in the dark a bit about how I can load my updated character to the point where I have played in this Chapter.
  • ShadowMShadowM Member Posts: 573
    On a whim, I tried going to the main menu and selected using a pre-made character for Chapter One, and was able to load the correct character. But, that would start the Chapter over from the beginning, and my current character that I have been playing is close to the end of Chapter One. I am in the dark a bit about how I can load my updated character to the point where I have played in this Chapter.

    Ah, you want to edit a player from a saved game. You need tlkedit, open the save file, scroll down to module.ifo (click on erf along the top, click open resource in editor) this will open another tab with the modules information including your character. Scroll down to the bottom and you will see Mod_PlayerList (it have + sign by it. expand it and it will have a list of your character information) scroll down and change the numbers you want and save then go back to the save file tab and save there.

    You can also use talk edit to edit a module patch version (if you wanted to try out dev builds and revert back to stable. I hope this helpful to everyone. Sorry if this old wizard keeping a few secrets here and there. :wink:
  • NeveroddoreveNNeveroddoreveN Member Posts: 173
    What do you mean by, "tlkedit"?
  • ShadowMShadowM Member Posts: 573
    tlkedit is a program for .2da editing and GFF editing mostly use for custom content. It can read save files.
    Here the latest version, I think.
    LINK
  • NeveroddoreveNNeveroddoreveN Member Posts: 173
    I am trying to run Tlkedit, but I am getting a message saying, "Error in Java Launcher. No Acceptable JVMs were found" - What am I doing wrong?
  • ShadowMShadowM Member Posts: 573
    edited January 2020
    I am trying to run Tlkedit, but I am getting a message saying, "Error in Java Launcher. No Acceptable JVMs were found" - What am I doing wrong?

    1. Do you have java installed
    2. Are you trying to start it with admin privilege
    3. Are you starting it with the .exe or the .jar
  • NeveroddoreveNNeveroddoreveN Member Posts: 173
    1. I don't think I have Java installed, I don't see it anywhere
    2. No, I am not trying to start it with admin privileges.
    3. I am trying to load the program application. There is a .jar file but I can't seem to open it.
  • ShadowMShadowM Member Posts: 573
    Yeah it require java
    Java LINK
  • NeveroddoreveNNeveroddoreveN Member Posts: 173
    crud. Is there a way to do this without Java?
  • ShadowMShadowM Member Posts: 573
    I not sure if there some other program out there that does not require java, but I do not know off the top of my head. Sorry.
  • NeveroddoreveNNeveroddoreveN Member Posts: 173
    Ok, no worries. Thanks for your help.
  • ProlericProleric Member Posts: 1,281
    To reinterate, you can edit a character in a saved game using Leto, but you do need to read the Help file carefully.
  • ShadowMShadowM Member Posts: 573
    Proleric wrote: »
    To reinterate, you can edit a character in a saved game using Leto, but you do need to read the Help file carefully.

    Proleric is correct, sorry I did not know that and did not look into the manual more.
    Here what it say:
    Editing Saved Games

    Leto allows you to edit a character and its inventory from within a NWN save game. The following step-by-step describes the process.

    1) First, make a backup of the save game you're going to edit.

    2) Start Leto 1.69. Select Menu -> File -> Open, and in the 'files of type' drop-down box, select 'from list in file'. Browse to your \saves directory in NWN. Open the folder and then the .sav file of the save you wish to edit.

    3) The 'select resource' dialog will appear. Select 'Module' (type IFO) at the bottom of the list. Your save's character will load in Leto. Edit whatever you wish in the normal way.

    4) When you've finished editing the character, select Menu -> File -> Save As (or Ctrl + S in the Advanced Editor). In the 'save as type' drop-down box, select 'into list from file'. Select the .sav you opened earlier. You will see a warning about making backups, then in the 'select resource' dialog, select 'Module' (type IFO) at the bottom of the list as before, and then select your character (listed by account and character name) in the 'Browse Lists' dialog that will appear. Click 'OK' to save; this may take some time if your save game is quite large. When you next load your edited save in NWN, the changes you made will have taken effect.

    Important Note: Simply editing the player.bic file in your save game's folder will not have any effect. The steps above must be followed to successfully modify a character in a save game.

    Additional Note: Importing item entries into a save game character's inventory may cause the imported items to be invalid (and not appear or behave strangely), or at worst, cause the game to crash upon loading the edited save game. See Advanced under the Advanced Editor section of this document for further information and a fix for this issue.


  • NeveroddoreveNNeveroddoreveN Member Posts: 173
    Awesome! Thanks to you both for your help and advice!
  • MerlexMerlex Member Posts: 3
    I'm using Leto PRC with PRC, but it won't let me edit feats. I keep getting error messages saying: "out of bounds". All the other features work, but feat editing was why I downloaded Leto to begin with. Can anyone help?
  • NeveroddoreveNNeveroddoreveN Member Posts: 173
    This all works fantastic - I thank everyone who has helped me. Another small issue - I have character that was encumbered at the end of the first chapter from low strength and a massive amount of loot in his backpack. I raised his strength with the LETO character editor, but when I loaded that character, even though he is not carrying over his weight limit, he is still encumbered. I even went to Aribeth to be healed, but even then I am still encumbered. Can someone help me with this?
  • NeveroddoreveNNeveroddoreveN Member Posts: 173
    Also, if I raised the Constitution of a character, will the game give retroactive hit points to make up for the change?
  • ShadowMShadowM Member Posts: 573
    Merlex wrote: »
    I'm using Leto PRC with PRC, but it won't let me edit feats. I keep getting error messages saying: "out of bounds". All the other features work, but feat editing was why I downloaded Leto to begin with. Can anyone help?
    @Merlex
    Have you tried advanced option or the gif editor that come with the game?
    This all works fantastic - I thank everyone who has helped me. Another small issue - I have character that was encumbered at the end of the first chapter from low strength and a massive amount of loot in his backpack. I raised his strength with the LETO character editor, but when I loaded that character, even though he is not carrying over his weight limit, he is still encumbered. I even went to Aribeth to be healed, but even then I am still encumbered. Can someone help me with this?

    @NeveroddoreveN
    Have you tried dropping all items and then picking them back up?

    Also, if I raised the Constitution of a character, will the game give retroactive hit points to make up for the change?

    I think it will only adjust current. So if you give your character 2 more points of constitution, you gain 1 hp not 1 hp per level. You might if you de-level and then re-level. This is speculation, do some testing.

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