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Scar Questions (Spoilers)

So with Scar, from what I've read, you can either avoid talking to him completely on the bridge into Baldur's Gate (Wyrm's Crossing) or you can talk to him and decline to help him. If you do either of these two things, he will appear later outside the Flaming Fist HQ.

If you decide instead to help him, he won't appear outside Flaming Fist HQ.

I'm assuming if you want to do the Seven Suns quest but decline him on the bridge, he will give it to you later outside of Flaming Fist HQ?

Also, Question -- When is the best time if you want to have a go at killing him for his 9,000 xp? Can you do it after he gives you quests? Or do you have to forfeit a quest to make that happen? Just curious.

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  • HaHaCharadeHaHaCharade Member Posts: 1,648
    edited March 9
    So - Answering my own questions 3 years later haha

    -- Decline to Help him when you meet him at Wyrm Crossing
    -- Meet him later outside FF HQ
    -- Complete the Seven Suns and Missing People quests for their rewards
    -- Speak to him but decline going to the Duke currently (this clears the "quest" of speaking to him about the Iron Throne). If you don't do this, and then kill him the quest will remain.
    -- Kill Scar (Cloudkill at night where you won't get collateral damage is the best bet - stand just out of his view). He will die fast.
    -- Don't worry you can still talk to the Duke inside AFTER Scar's dead. You can't talk to him inside unless Scar is dead as otherwise, Scar leads you to him.

    -- Alternatively, if you want to kill him the hard way - or get someone else the "Strongest Slain" stat besides your wizard, this strategy works but takes a long time and multiple reloads. Do this all out of sight of him.
    1) Fight him at night.
    2) Turn on "To Hit Rolls" if you don't have it on already. (see Options)
    3) Memorize all Magic Missiles for Level 1 spells for all your mages (minimum 2 mages, max level)
    4) Memorize all Skull Traps for Level 3 spells with one mage, and ensure the other mage can Haste at least 4 times.
    5) Memorize all Spider Swarm for Level 4 spells.
    6) Start battle by being out of view. Cast all your skull traps right on top of him, so that he's hit by them to start the battle but doesn't charge you since he's not in view.
    7) Cast Spider Swarm, try to reload unless you summon 2 Phase Spders (20% chance). HASTE THEM.
    8) Attack him one at a time with the Phase Spiders, ensuring they attack but he doesn't enter your field of view and charge you (he should only be attacking Phase Spiders off screen).
    9) Have the spiders poison him. Reload if spiders die without poisoning him first. Takes a long time to get them to poison him. But they can - and if they do, each one will do 75-100 damage to his 987 HP. . rinse and Repeat. Ensure you re-haste each grouping of 2 you summon.
    10) When you get him "Almost Dead" you can pelt him with Magic Missiles and Larloch Minor Drain. If you time it right, anyone can finish him off with a Wand of Magic Missiles. Best way to time it is count down his damage and when you get close, switch to the person with the magic missile wand to get the kill.
  • jasteyjastey Member Posts: 2,810
    Did you play on after killing him? Does the story consider this?
  • HaHaCharadeHaHaCharade Member Posts: 1,648
    edited March 9
    jastey wrote: »
    Did you play on after killing him? Does the story consider this?

    Yep you keep playing. There's no story changes, its just a way to get his 9k exp, x3 +1 items, and his 5,000 gold.

    Once you complete Scar's two quests (Seven Suns and Missing People) he remains standing outside the Flaming Fist HQ. If you talk to him, he'll say Duke Eltan wants to see you. If you say ok, he leads you into the HQ building and you meet Eltan, Scar Leaves, and you never see him again.

    If you tell him no at this point, he remains waiting for you in case you change your mind. If you kill him at this point, then Eltan will appear inside the HQ building upstairs and you don't need Scar to continue the storyline. You just talk to Duke Eltan yourself.
  • jasteyjastey Member Posts: 2,810
    I was referring to
    Spoiler
    Scar being murdered later.
    It always seemed like an important plot point. Well, I mean, at least if he wasn't killed by the player, that is. :p
    But I could imagine this was not considered.

    (Scar fan girl here, btw. How dare you! :D )
  • HaHaCharadeHaHaCharade Member Posts: 1,648
    LOL - I'm on an evil playthrough, nothing is safe. But yeah, I don't believe it impacts it.
  • TrouveurTrouveur Member Posts: 757
    jastey wrote: »
    I was referring to
    Spoiler
    Scar being murdered later.
    It always seemed like an important plot point. Well, I mean, at least if he wasn't killed by the player, that is. :p
    But I could imagine this was not considered.

    (Scar fan girl here, btw. How dare you! :D )
    It was so hard to raise him back in my latest play-through. ^^
  • jasteyjastey Member Posts: 2,810
    Trouveur wrote: »
    It was so hard to raise him back in my latest play-through. ^^
    @Trouveur may I ask why? Do you mean the normal bg1re quest with its several steps or did something happen?
  • jasteyjastey Member Posts: 2,810
    LOL - I'm on an evil playthrough, nothing is safe.
    I didn't know one could kill him. But yeah, he is not necessarily needed for playing on. Obviously :D

  • TrouveurTrouveur Member Posts: 757
    jastey wrote: »
    @Trouveur may I ask why? Do you mean the normal bg1re quest with its several steps or did something happen?
    Yes, playing hide and seek with the crate was fun. ^^
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