It still works. It takes a good twenty seconds after click thirty to proc though. If you talk to him again in between click 30 and when he gives the gold, you don't get the gold.
I can confirm this works. Do it before doing the quest for him.
Count carefully. On #30 it takes a good long time. Then you'll get a message. "The party has received 300 gp." or something to that account on the chat box. So be sure to sit and wait on chat #30.
You finish the conversation. Then WAIT. *Firm nod* He doesn't say anything different. It just happens.
I can confirm this works. Do it before doing the quest for him.
I did it after completing his quest - Still worked fine but yeah, would be nice if they removed the lag after the 30th click... But maybe it makes it more of a trick, lol.
right or left click? I don't remember this one, but it's nice if it gives out 300 gold at beginning of game. I'm assuming right click like as in how you get party members to saying something about touching them so much?
right or left click? I don't remember this one, but it's nice if it gives out 300 gold at beginning of game. I'm assuming right click like as in how you get party members to saying something about touching them so much?
It is normal clicking, the kind that brings up the dialogue window.
@HaHaCharade - Sorry that 20 seconds wasn't long enough for you. I was estimating.
Why bother with this when you can just murder Firebead? If you kill him you'll gain all the gold he has (nearly 400 gp), 1 mage robe, and you'll gain 2700xp which is enough for 1 or 2 levels (depending on your class). Those extra levels are really helpful at the start of the game since It prevents being one shot at the start of the game. My assassin was able to leave candlekeep at level 3 with 23 hp instead of a mere 8hp.
Why bother with this when you can just murder him. If you kill him you'll gain all the gold he has (nearly 400 gp),1 mage robe, and you'll gain enough experience to go up a level or 2 depending on your class. Those extra levels are really helpful at the start of the game. It can help prevents being one shot at the start of the game. My assassin was able to leave candlekeep at level 3 with 23 hp instead of a mere 8hp.
Because you can kill him later in Beregost after completing another quest and get the same stuff. If you kill him in Candlekeep in Enhanced Edition, he will not be present later on.
And yet the whole point of killing him in Candlekeep is to make sure your not killed by say the first wolf you meet outside.
I'm fairly confident that the plate mail I took from Hull the Gate Guard will aid me in that encounter :P By the way if you kill a watcher for armor, make it Hull. He pops 80 more gold than a standard watcher does, plus you can sell his sword for an additional 7gp to that oaf Winthrop. Evil cheap bastards unite!
I can't wear plate mail as an assassin.... Though if you are a warrior class your only gaining 1 level. Killing him is much more valuable for quickly leveling classes (such as rouge or cleric) because you'll jump 2 levels which is a big deal.
Like I said, with some lucky rolls for my HP gain, I left candlekeep with 23 hp.
Note: you want to keep your rep around 7 since its the cheapest to increase your REP at temples with donations.
Theres a quest in the Friendly arm inn to return a girdle to its owner. You can complete the quest then murder the poor bastard to get the belt back. Its a really good belt after all. And no, pickpocketing will not get you the girdle back. You must kill him.
In Nashkel, you can lie to the guy that thinks your greywolf and take his reward. After you explorer the mines, you can return with the quest to return some gems. Except he won't pay you because your a lier. So murder that bastard and take the gems and his large amount of gold as payment for darning to get in your way.
I compared some NPC, who you can kill with no rep loss in vanilla (different sites etc) with the actual bgee...and in most cases you'll get a rep-hit anyway. e.g. Beregost Feldpost Inn - doing the good solution with Marl and kill him afterwards.
Guess that's part of the 'fixing-progress' as it would be stupid to not loose any rep while killing him either way. Found some other stuff as well...that won't work anymore.
Though I play a Cavalier, so I don't necessary kill random people :P
[that's only thanks to the NPC-modding community, cause there is no decent NPC thief, with a nice story line suited for SoA+ToB .. any I actually want to import either the Paladin or a dual class fighter-cleric in BG2 and my current pick is Beyond-the-Law for a decent thief ::: I just hate Jan ^^ .. so I have to be the good guy]
Ok, just a hint for anyone having trouble like I did on this. The VERY first time you talk to him, and he gives you the quest, counts as click #1. I know that may sound stupid to some, but I was assuming I had to accept the quest and then talk to him 30 times. Anyway, finally I tried 30 times total, including the time he gives you the quest. Passing that along in case it's helpful to someone else.
If you murder him early you don't get a scroll case.
Indeed. I murder him *after* the quest where he gives you the scroll case :-)
They really should add scroll case to couple vendors like High Hedge and SS too. It's very easy to miss out on that quest which gives basically an UI improvement.
@BlackIvory Not sure about Beregost... I kind of doubt it. But maybe worth a try.
@KryptBeowulf 300 gold is a lot man at game-start man, lol
So, do you have to try the Gold trick in Candlekeep? I tried it in Beregost and couldn't get it to work, didn't realise it might be location-dependent...
Why do you guys need so much HP or Gold in the early game? You don't attack all wolves, bears, or ogres on your path head on with a dagger, dressed in robes, do you? And what will 300 gold buy that will increase survivability in such great proportions? We get enough cash in mundane manners to equip a fighter from head to toe in my experience. In any case, decent dexterity, basic range weapons and team work with Imoen and no lone monster that can't shoot arrows has a chance. The only issue, really, is entering FAI, depending on the main character's class. And for many of them, it's easy actually. All those comments in the context of playing at insane difficult setting.
Why do you guys need so much HP or Gold in the early game? You don't attack all wolves, bears, or ogres on your path head on with a dagger, dressed in robes, do you? And what will 300 gold buy that will increase survivability in such great proportions? We get enough cash in mundane manners to equip a fighter from head to toe in my experience. In any case, decent dexterity, basic range weapons and team work with Imoen and no lone monster that can't shoot arrows has a chance. The only issue, really, is entering FAI, depending on the main character's class. And for many of them, it's easy actually. All those comments in the context of playing at insane difficult setting.
If you want to buy a scimitar or wakazashi, chain or scale mail and a ranged weapon, some classes don't get given enough gold to do this (e.g. Bards)
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I can confirm this works. Do it before doing the quest for him.
Count carefully. On #30 it takes a good long time. Then you'll get a message. "The party has received 300 gp." or something to that account on the chat box. So be sure to sit and wait on chat #30.
You finish the conversation. Then WAIT. *Firm nod* He doesn't say anything different. It just happens.
@KryptBeowulf 300 gold is a lot man at game-start man, lol
@HaHaCharade - Sorry that 20 seconds wasn't long enough for you. I was estimating.
Like I said, with some lucky rolls for my HP gain, I left candlekeep with 23 hp.
@HaHacharade
0.0 so much evil.....
"The lord of murder shall perish, but in his doom he shall spawn a score of mortal progeny..."
Go enjoy being princes of murder, leave me out of it!
But seriously, if only I had know killing him would be so rewarding, I could have saved myself years of trouble in the wilderness. Evil FTW!
Note: you want to keep your rep around 7 since its the cheapest to increase your REP at temples with donations.
Theres a quest in the Friendly arm inn to return a girdle to its owner. You can complete the quest then murder the poor bastard to get the belt back. Its a really good belt after all. And no, pickpocketing will not get you the girdle back. You must kill him.
In Nashkel, you can lie to the guy that thinks your greywolf and take his reward. After you explorer the mines, you can return with the quest to return some gems. Except he won't pay you because your a lier. So murder that bastard and take the gems and his large amount of gold as payment for darning to get in your way.
e.g. Beregost Feldpost Inn - doing the good solution with Marl and kill him afterwards.
Guess that's part of the 'fixing-progress' as it would be stupid to not loose any rep while killing him either way. Found some other stuff as well...that won't work anymore.
Though I play a Cavalier, so I don't necessary kill random people :P
[that's only thanks to the NPC-modding community, cause there is no decent NPC thief, with a nice story line suited for SoA+ToB .. any I actually want to import either the Paladin or a dual class fighter-cleric in BG2 and my current pick is Beyond-the-Law for a decent thief ::: I just hate Jan ^^ .. so I have to be the good guy]