Heavily modded EET issues
When BG1 came out many years ago, I had it and TotSC on 6 CDs. I beat them and for some reason never got around to BG2 which I hear is the superior game. Every few years or so I try to put together a heavily modded install to play them together in EET with tons of mods as well. I run into some issues with the install or playing early on, give up and decide to revisit it years later. Now with BG3 released, I want to play and catch up with everything I've been missing.
I installed basically every quest mod I could. The install completed without errors. I'm about to finish Chapter 4 of BGEE and I've run into three issues so far. I don't know if this can help identify bugs, mod conflicts or console commands I can use to fix these.
Issue 1:
I got to Friendly Arm Inn, and saves after that were corrupted and wouldn't load. I've run into this before in the past. This time I was determined to track this down a bit more. I went to a save before Friendly Arm Inn, and saved frequently, reloading and testing the saves. I found the issue where the game breaks for me is if I get Golden Pantaloons. This is something from vanilla. The game doesn't crash or anything. I can keep playing for hours later, but any save after that is corrupt for some reason.
Edit: I could reproduce this consistently in Chapter 1 when I first ran into it. I can't reproduce this in Chapter 4. A few days from now when I have time I may speed-run to Friendly Arm Inn and try to reproduce again.
Issue 2:
I meet three fishermen who want me to kill a priestess. Sandrah immediately steps in to object saying she knows they stole a bowl. How she knows this is a bit weird. Ignoring that, the text said they were going to give me the bowl bit didn't. I talked to them a second time and they did give me the bowl. I went up to the next map and met Tenya who does not give me any option to return the bowl. In vanilla she is supposed to attack me, but she never attacks me. If I attack her, she doesn't fight back and dies, even if I attack her slowly with low damage. I have the bowl and no way to progress the quest.
Edit: There seem to be 10 different mods touching Tenya during the install:
Issue 3:
I'm doing the Neera side-quest. The party I've got is CHARNAME (Fighter), Imoen, Sandrah, Drake, Sirine and Neera. I'm going with a party I should be able to use for the whole EET as far as I can tell. I'm also trying new characters since I played vanilla BG1 with the usual party of Imoen, Khalid, Jaheira, Minsc and Dynaheir. Anyway, I follow a goblin to a cave and find a dead body. Later I meet Magreb who wants me to find the body of Rilsa. I see the body no problem. I can loot the gear on top. I can click precisely where the icon turns into that set of two circular arrows, but nothing. I reload and try talking to Magreb first. Same thing. I get the same behavior. I can find the body. I get the weird icon to interact with the body, but clicking does nothing.
Edit: This seems to come from Trial of the Luremaster in BG2EE
Help would be appreciated! Thanks!
I installed basically every quest mod I could. The install completed without errors. I'm about to finish Chapter 4 of BGEE and I've run into three issues so far. I don't know if this can help identify bugs, mod conflicts or console commands I can use to fix these.
Issue 1:
I got to Friendly Arm Inn, and saves after that were corrupted and wouldn't load. I've run into this before in the past. This time I was determined to track this down a bit more. I went to a save before Friendly Arm Inn, and saved frequently, reloading and testing the saves. I found the issue where the game breaks for me is if I get Golden Pantaloons. This is something from vanilla. The game doesn't crash or anything. I can keep playing for hours later, but any save after that is corrupt for some reason.
Edit: I could reproduce this consistently in Chapter 1 when I first ran into it. I can't reproduce this in Chapter 4. A few days from now when I have time I may speed-run to Friendly Arm Inn and try to reproduce again.
Issue 2:
I meet three fishermen who want me to kill a priestess. Sandrah immediately steps in to object saying she knows they stole a bowl. How she knows this is a bit weird. Ignoring that, the text said they were going to give me the bowl bit didn't. I talked to them a second time and they did give me the bowl. I went up to the next map and met Tenya who does not give me any option to return the bowl. In vanilla she is supposed to attack me, but she never attacks me. If I attack her, she doesn't fight back and dies, even if I attack her slowly with low damage. I have the bowl and no way to progress the quest.
Edit: There seem to be 10 different mods touching Tenya during the install:
- EET
- EET_Tweaks
- PPE
- SandrahNPC
- faiths_and_powers
- FinchNPC
- thepicturestandard
- cdtweaks
- stratagems
- rr
Issue 3:
I'm doing the Neera side-quest. The party I've got is CHARNAME (Fighter), Imoen, Sandrah, Drake, Sirine and Neera. I'm going with a party I should be able to use for the whole EET as far as I can tell. I'm also trying new characters since I played vanilla BG1 with the usual party of Imoen, Khalid, Jaheira, Minsc and Dynaheir. Anyway, I follow a goblin to a cave and find a dead body. Later I meet Magreb who wants me to find the body of Rilsa. I see the body no problem. I can loot the gear on top. I can click precisely where the icon turns into that set of two circular arrows, but nothing. I reload and try talking to Magreb first. Same thing. I get the same behavior. I can find the body. I get the weird icon to interact with the body, but clicking does nothing.
Edit: This seems to come from Trial of the Luremaster in BG2EE
Help would be appreciated! Thanks!
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That isn't helpful.
Her own forums went down and it seems people say on every single forum that they refuse to provide support if her mod is included. Again that isn't particularly helpful.
It's kinda like, if you put diesel in your petrol tank, and your car breaks down as a result, and the shady character who sold you the diesel and told you it would totally be ok is nowhere to be found, you shouldn't be surprised if petrol car enthusiasts tell you the only solution is to empty the tank and start over.
The solution is to delete your game folder along with all mods and start fresh not using the EE Mod Setup Tool. The specifics have been repeated ad nauseam and can be found with a simple google search.
I've read the specifics. People don't like Roxanne's behavior or her writing.
That has nothing to do with bugs in mod conflicts. Refusing to provide technical support if you don't like someone is childish, petty and not helpful.
In my previous attempts at a EET playthrough, I'd post bugs on her forums, and she was helpful. And in every case, the problem was mod conflicts with other mods, and she provided fixes.
I suspect in this case, at least one of the 3 issues I ran into may in fact be from her mod since she alters the Tenya quest, but there is a Tenya NPC mod that can also be the culprit. You never know into you dig in and troubleshoot. Refusing to do so doesn't help the modding scene.
Since she doesn't participate here, and her forums are down, you're effectively saying that no player should ever be allowed to play with mods you don't like and they should never receive support.
She takes other mod authors work, makes changes to it that causes bugs, then puts the unauthorized version into a drop box she maintains that goes to the EE mod setup tool. The original mod author is unable to correct the bug because it is in Rox's separate drop box, so yes it makes sense for the original mod authors to tell people like you to pound sand when a bug arises.
Of course she is helpful in fixing the bugs, she caused them in the first place and they are unique to her tool and alterations to others mods. You even state majority of the issues are mod conflicts with other mods. The entire point of her tool is to install in an order and notify the user so conflicts don't occur. Assuming the sole issue is mod conflicts, which it verifiably is not, then the tool by your own reasoning is the culprit for the bugs caused by conflicts it should avoid.
I'm saying, and so is everyone in all the places you've posed this question, is to not use the ee mod setup tool as it causes problems. Call it a clue that everyone is telling you the exact same thing. You can play with whatever mods you like, but no one is going to offer you support as the cause has already been identified: EE mod setup tool.
Thank you.
The first response to this thread was someone telling me they won't help me because I had the Sandrah mod installed, which you reiterated. Now you're claiming that no one is telling me that. That simply isn't true.
People have been rude and shitty to me because they don't like someone else when I politely asked for help.
If you want to move the goal poet and say the issue is her installer and not the mod, it is inconsistent to say it is bad because of her and simultaneously say she stole it and deserves no credit for it. It was widely touted as the best mod tool before her. If she did no work on the tool, and it was good before, then why is it inherently bad once she is associated with it?
You don't see that as irrational?
The only real criticism I can find for the tool is that it is connected to the Sandrah mod, which again moves things back to insinuating that players should not be afforded a choice to install a mod.
I tried Project Infinity and couldn't get a working install. EET Tool gave me a working install to start and you're telling me the only support I'm allowed to get is to throw away time currently put in and go with a tool that can't even get me a working install.
I suppose I can do that and then post logs on trying to fix that install, but I also explicitly wanted a companion that works in the whole EET and mods to enhance playing in EET mode. Sandrah appears (with all her faults) to be the only companion designed for that purpose.
I was hoping it would click for you, but clearly not. Wisdom is chasing you and you just happen to be faster.
I have no idea about the first issue and the second seem to be an Sandrah thing so like mentionned it's hard to help you.
For the third other players already have mentionned the problem, can you share your weidu.log ?
You insist ProjectInfinity is better and her mod tool is awful.
I just created new folders, copied over BGEE and BGEE2 from Steam, and grabbed the latest ProjectInfinity.
The latest ProjectInfinity won't even launch. Thanks for telling me this would solve all my problems.
https://imgur.com/a/8s5umij
Gladly.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ij7nj7PV2S7WhiGGfMBOMXyVw2A9pF7W/view?usp=drive_link
Zip file with EE-Debug.log, WeiDU-BGEE.log and WeiDU.log
I cannot acces to the file, permission is required...
If you want to do some testing try to launch a change-log.bat file in your EET (00783) folder.
You need to have a .exe named weidu.exe in the same folder, you can rename any of the existing other setup-"mod".exe for that.
After double-clicking on change-log.bat a new folder named change-log will be created then you can post the result here.
For the change-log.bat, you just have to rename the following change-log.txt to change-log.bat
The zip file also includes the output changelog folder.
The issue come from A7-TotLM-BG2EE who replace NETRIG1.BCS and deactivate the trigger for Rizzla body...
I tag @argent77 the autor of the mod for more insight.
I have noticed the same issue from IWD1_EET, it seem that a common file from Heart of Winter is overlaping.
I am not sure how to resolve this without causing further issue with the mod Heart of Winter so we have to wait for Argent77 answer !
She can't receive PMs there and isn't active anywhere also that I can see. I don't know if the mods blocked PMs or if she disabled them.
I opened up Github issues on the page for her tool since there is no other way to reach her it seems. If the issue truly is her tool creating the problems, that is the proper place to create the issues, but I don't know that her install tool is the issue or not.
Thank you!
At least one of the issues has been hunted down.
Frankly, I don't have a dog in the fight as to who the bugs lie with. I just want to see bugs fixed, and if possible if I can drop in files or use console commands to fix my playthrough.
Edit: On the first issue, the pantaloons are MISC47.ITM I believe. Going through my logs, the only thing that touches them is the EET setup itself. No other mod touches the file or provides an override.
##### Enhanced Edition Trilogy ##### ### 0000: Enhanced Edition Trilogy ### Ready for installation Setup-EET.exe --no-exit-pause --noautoupdate --language 0 --skip-at-view --args-list p "D:\BWS\Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition" --force-install-list 0 --logapp [Setup-EET.exe] WeiDU version 24700 Using Language [English] ... [EET\temp\patch\itm/MISC47.ITM] created from [D:\BWS\Baldur's Gate Enhanced Edition/DATA/ITEMS.BIF] ... Patching: 1 matches found in AR0602.BCS for REPLACE_TEXTUALLY: ActionOverride("Picture1",CreateItem("MISC47",0,0,0)) Copying and patching 1 file ...Edit 2: Even weirder, I could reproduce the pantaloon issue consistently in Chapter 1 when I ran across it. I just tried reproducing the issue in Chapter 4 and I can't for whatever reason. I could maybe spin up a new game and speedrun to Friendly Arm Inn and try to reproduce it again.
Edit 3: For Tenya, there appear to be 15 mods touching her in my install:
I can confirm this issue. It's not trivial to fix manually, but you can download and install the attached mod to resolve the resource name conflict. The Neera quest issue should be fixed automatically, but the TotLM-related side of the issue will only be effective if you haven't started the TotLM adventure yet.
Unpack the attached zip file into the game directory and run "setup-A7-TotLM-scriptfixer.exe".
Thank you Argent77!
I'm going to follow your example in the devel branch and do the same for IWD_EET.
This is not what happens here, though. I refuse to look at your bugs because I don't know whether the bugs you encounter are even inside my mods, because Roxanne changed the mods the EE Setup Tool downloads.
In other words:
Expecting me to go through inofficial mod versions changed by someone else of my mods is childish.