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[MOD] A Moment With Imoen - Romance mod for Imoen

WombatWombat Member Posts: 13
edited September 21 in BGII:EE Mods
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Introduction
A Moment With Imoen is a romance mod for Imoen in Baldur's Gate 2.

Features:
- Full romance arc with a human male PC
- Numerous new banters with every Bioware NPC
- A full array of interjections

Mod Components:
1. A Moment With Imoen - Base mod.
2. Improved EE Thief Avatars (EE Only) - Allows unarmored and chainmail to change appearance for thief avatars. See screenshot for before and after.
3. Classic BG2 Imoen Colors (EE Only) - Restores Imoen's colors from original Baldur's Gate 2.
4. Romance Cheat: No Race Restrictions - Removes race restrictions in Imoen's romance.


The Elephant In The Room
"Is this mod incest?"
No.


More Information
See readme.


Download
Github
Nexusmods
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Comments

  • shaigan22shaigan22 Member Posts: 58
    Wow, great to see you here again with interesting idea. Do you know how it could work with other Imoen mods? Imoen Friendship, Imoen 4 Ever, Imoen Romance?
  • WombatWombat Member Posts: 13
    shaigan22 wrote: »
    Wow, great to see you here again with interesting idea. Do you know how it could work with other Imoen mods? Imoen Friendship, Imoen 4 Ever, Imoen Romance?
    It's its own standalone mod.

    Imoen Friendship looks like it could be compatible, but I guess the better question is why would you want to use the two together?

    Imoen 4 Ever looks like a hard no. The romance arc and banter system in AMWI are woven around the default questline.

    Imoen Romance is a hard no.
  • IseweinIsewein Member Posts: 644
    edited September 20
    Now that's... unexpected. Congrats on the release. Seems like you must have been quietly working away at this for quite a while. Now, as someone always looking to maximise character content for those long, drawn-out playthroughs, the answer to this question
    Imoen Friendship looks like it could be compatible, but I guess the better question is why would you want to use the two together?
    is rather obviously: because you'd like to hear more of Imoen? By the looks of it, it seems like your mod (commendably!) contains many interjections not linked to the romance which female Charnames e.g. might also enjoy, so why be so dismissive?

    For the same reason, I'd also like to know whether you coded any *technical* incompatibility with the Imoen Romance mod, which is an absolute mainstay in my installs for its elevation of the ToB narrative (even without pursuing the romance route).
  • WombatWombat Member Posts: 13
    Less is more. Consistency and cohesiveness are important. The more stuff you put in from different people, the messier things get. It's inevitable. Everybody's doing their own thing.

    But sure, to answer your question, yes, AMWI does offer a fair bit of content for non-romancing PC. Most NPCs have a few banters that can trigger even without the romance. Several of them (Anomen, Mazzy, Nalia, Korgan, Valygar) retain all of their banters as well.

    As for compatibility with Imoen Romance, there are probably some overlaps with the interjections at the very least. Although, to be frank, I've never played any of these mods or looked into their code, so I don't have a lot of confidence in my answer. Just a safe guess, seeing as the interjections in AMWI covers all of SOA. I don't think there's anything in the script that can break other mods, but then again, I've seen all kinds of things happen.
  • JarlyJarly Member Posts: 32
    edited September 21
    While I liked some late game content in classic Imoen Romance mod, its unskippable silly dreams in the beginning completely ruined pacing and vibes of story for me, so I didn't install it after my first time.
    Maybe this is a decent alternative. I like how author put emphasis on faithfulness to the original story/writing in the readme.

    Anyway, congratulations on the release!
  • jasteyjastey Member Posts: 2,964
    edited September 21
    Congrats on the release!
    Two questions. If you recommend not mixing with Imoen Friendship, does the mod offer a friendship path in case of non-romance? EDIT: I read the description; question is, are there dialogues that are not romance related.
    And, I see a custom Imoen portrait in the first post. Is this an install choice or is it obligatory content?
  • shaigan22shaigan22 Member Posts: 58
    any chances for hosting it at github?
  • WombatWombat Member Posts: 13
    Jarly wrote: »
    While I liked some late game content in classic Imoen Romance mod, its unskippable silly dreams in the beginning completely ruined pacing and vibes of story for me, so I didn't install it after my first time.
    Maybe this is a decent alternative. I like how author put emphasis on faithfulness to the original story/writing in the readme.

    Anyway, congratulations on the release!
    I've never played the Imoen Romance mod so I can't really comment too much on it. All I can say is, I've read and seen enough about it over the years to know it's definitely not for me. Not to disparage anyone, because I don't use most mods anyway.

    But yeah, pacing is very important. Faithfulness as well, to the original game and lore and presentation, also very important. AMWI was written from the angle of "what if Baldur's Gate 2 was shipped with Imoen as the main love interest."

    I still remember playing the game for the first time back in the day. Romance wasn't even a thing so I thought the plot was just about you saving your girlfriend. Next thing you know, Jaheira and Aerie are both trying to flirt with me, which caught me off guard. Then I rescue Imoen and then they tell me she's your sister now. Whole thing was a trip. What a massive missed opportunity that was, especially now that I've finished this mod.
    jastey wrote: »
    Congrats on the release!
    Two questions. If you recommend not mixing with Imoen Friendship, does the mod offer a friendship path in case of non-romance? EDIT: I read the description; question is, are there dialogues that are not romance related.
    And, I see a custom Imoen portrait in the first post. Is this an install choice or is it obligatory content?
    No, I didn't say that. And if I did, then I take it back. The only mod I'd outright recommend against using with AMWI at the moment is Imoen 4 Ever. From what I've read, it changes the whole main quest line. That's bound to mess something up.

    My thing was I didn't get why you would want to use Imoen Friendship with AMWI, but I was thinking along the lines of if you're romancing Imoen. If you're not romancing her, then yes, there are non-romance related dialogues, mostly interjections, and some NPC banters as well. It should work with Imoen Friendship.

    The portrait is from my other mod. Not included in AMWI.
    shaigan22 wrote: »
    any chances for hosting it at github?
    Yes, but why? Nexus has been my base of operation for years now.
  • jasteyjastey Member Posts: 2,964
    Thanks for info!

    Nexusmods is, in general, not a usual hub for IE mods. This might be my bubble, but afaik there is a few serious modders hosting there, and a lot of inofficial uploads of outdated mod versions from others.
    Also, afaik, you need to be a member to be able to download.
  • WombatWombat Member Posts: 13
    jastey wrote: »
    Thanks for info!

    Nexusmods is, in general, not a usual hub for IE mods. This might be my bubble, but afaik there is a few serious modders hosting there, and a lot of inofficial uploads of outdated mod versions from others.
    Also, afaik, you need to be a member to be able to download.
    Makes sense. Added Github link.
  • shevy123456shevy123456 Member Posts: 553
    > The Elephant In The Room
    > "Is this mod incest?"
    > No.

    Is this due to an older mod that had very strange dialogue? I was not paying that much attention to the discussion back
    then (and I think it started before I joined the forum here, anyway). I think I played the mod perhaps once only, briefly,
    before I realised that I am not that interested in Imoen (I usually tell her to go find her own way out of the dungeon,
    because the other NPCs in the team are much cooler :P). It's nice to have more Imoen content in general though.

    Anyway, just pondering - to me it is not so important either way.

    One nice adjustment may be to have specific subquest(s). This does not have to be about finding some overpowered
    item, per se, but could be like similar to the reward Neera gives (that figurine) or anything like that; no clue what may fit
    to Imoen (for Edwin he just has to carry the teddy bear that can be found in one of Lava's mod, there is just no other
    way for Edwin when I play him these days - finger of death wand in one hand, teddy bear in the other hand, that's
    the way to go). The reason I mention this with regards to Imoen is just so that a mod can be more uniquely tailored
    to a NPC; and one item may also not be too much work, assuming your mod may have been influenced by older
    mods about Imon. (If not then this subsection does not quite apply that well, as a "distinguishing feature".)
    Then you can also say in the mod that your mod is more fine-tuned towards Imon overall, aside from any other older
    mod content. Although I think, if people do not know the older mod, they may not think about incest - wasn't that one
    of the older discussions about? I mean there are many strange romances - romances around furries would be the
    weirdest. Why does Wilson like rabbits so much ... I may not want to know anyway, but Acifer's mod where bears
    teach smaller animals the ways in ... "group therapy sessions", got me thinking.

    By the way, the image for Imoen is probably AI-generated? She looks a bit puffy there, like a hamster storing
    chestnuts in the mouth.

    > No Race Restrictions - Removes race restrictions in Imoen's romance.

    I always suspected Imoen had an affection for the weirdo gnomeys. In particular when one uses the Lichdom
    mod. Undead love lasts forever. Two liches finally joined as couple - how adorable. \o/
  • JarlyJarly Member Posts: 32
    Is this due to an older mod that had very strange dialogue?
    I think topic starter made it clear he hasn't played it.
  • WombatWombat Member Posts: 13
    Jarly wrote: »
    I think topic starter made it clear he hasn't played it.
    I've put that user on the ignore list. I get the gimmick but dude doesn't have the comedic chops to pull it off, so it's just meh. Not the first time he's tried it on me either, in case you thought this was out of nowhere.

    Anyway, let's stay on topic, folks. Thanks.
  • _DD__DD_ Member Posts: 86
    Thanks for the mod!
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