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F/F Romancing Neera, what are my options?

MisseMisse Member Posts: 16
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Happy new owner of BG:EE here, about to load it up fo a run. However, I've hit one big snag:
I want to play a female character.
I want to romance Neera.

Sadly, this isn't possible out of the box. So, what are my options here?

Pick male on character creation, use a female custom portrait & soundset and just RP cross dressing? This would work, but it's the worst option I can think of - kinda defeats the purpose of playing a female character if the entire game considers you male.

Girdle of Masculinity? Would wearing this at the right time allow the romance to start? Would it be required in all subsequent dialog with Neera?

CLUAConsole voodoo? I remember using that for F/F romance with a Aerie in a modded BG2, is it possible here?

Mods.. if my google-fu isn't failing me, such a mod hasn't been made yet. But is it possible? Is anyone working on such a mod?

Alternatively, if none of these options are possible (at least for a while yet), are there any other compelling F/F romances I can play in BG:EE, either that it ships with or through mods confirmed to work with BG:EE?

Thanks for any replies, but lets please not turn it into a discussion about gay romances as such. Plenty of those, and all I really want to know right now are what my options are currently.

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  • ZinodinZinodin Member Posts: 153
    I got no helpful comment, but this was an insightful comment.

    I shall follow this thread, while carefully resuming my.. knitting.. and tea.. :)
  • shawneshawne Member Posts: 3,239
    edited December 2012
    Dave Gross indicated a while back that this is something they have been/will be working on, but he wouldn't go into any further detail. My guess is that one of the new NPCs for BG2:EE will have a F/F option (ie: it won't be Neera specifically, but another character).

    Barring that, I suppose mods will eventually allow a female PC to romance Neera, it's just a matter of time...
  • ZinodinZinodin Member Posts: 153
    Don't worry. I'm sure there'll be more characters in the future :)
  • MisseMisse Member Posts: 16
    Started my playthrough as female, hoping to find some sort of clue poking around with CLUAConsole:GetGlobal. But so far, it just keeps telling me that no such global has been defined, even though I use nomenclature found elsewhere on the boards & bg2 (e.g. Neera_Romance, Neera_Match, ditto w/o underscores, and a few more).
    Perhaps they just don't get defined if I play as female?
    I guess I will play around with setting them blindly tomorrow.
  • JalilyJalily Member Posts: 4,681
    edited December 2012
    I asked about F/F romance mods for BG1/BG:EE in this topic, but the answer appears to be no. However, @Aosaw is making one for BG2:EE.
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  • DeucetipherDeucetipher Member Posts: 521
    I think I have a decent workaround in the meantime. Create a male character, select female soundset/custom portrait, then Shadowkeep the paperdoll and avatar to female. It's not perfect, as any dialogue describing the charname as male will remain so, and the record page will still say male, but it's a reasonable stopgap measure, I think. At least your char will look female in the inventory and while running around in game, and will be able to romance Neera.
  • MisseMisse Member Posts: 16
    I may just have to do that. Luckily most of the game seems content to completely ignore my gender, so I won't run into too much immersion breaking dialog. Sure, there will be instances like Bassilus mistaking me for his father.. but he is rambling nuts anyway =P

    Would be awesome if there was an easier way like CLUAConsoling a couple of variables though.
  • JalilyJalily Member Posts: 4,681
    Neera's voiced lines refer to your character as a man. I'm afraid you won't find it very satisfying.
  • MisseMisse Member Posts: 16
    I suspected they might. Hopefully it's not too much, and I'll be able to overlook it and enjoy it regardless. Until such time as the rumored DLC or any F/F enabled mod companions are ready, Neera is all I have. And I am curious to see how her romance plays out.

    Anyone know what the first romance-specific dialog is? Just so I know if the 'hack' works.
  • JalilyJalily Member Posts: 4,681
    edited December 2012
    Oh, I totally understand, being in a similar situation myself.

    For the best of both worlds, here's how to play as a female character and romance Neera while staying within the rules of the game: First, make a female character. Get the cursed Girdle of Masculinity/Femininity from the ogre south of the Friendly Arm Inn, but do not use it yet. After Neera gives you her quest, wait a week and then start wearing it before you go to sleep. If it's time for a romance talk, Neera will initiate dialogue once you wake up. You can remove the girdle after that and continue playing as a woman. Do this once every few days.

    Her first romance talk is "I've been thinking about you."
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  • XKalXKal Member Posts: 58
    Deucetipher said:

    I think I have a decent workaround in the meantime. Create a male character, select female soundset/custom portrait, then Shadowkeep the paperdoll and avatar to female. It's not perfect, as any dialogue describing the charname as male will remain so, and the record page will still say male, but it's a reasonable stopgap measure, I think. At least your char will look female in the inventory and while running around in game, and will be able to romance Neera.

    This is what I did. Not perfect, but at least it's a solution.
  • seasea Member Posts: 65
    It's probably on rule 34 already. You won't have to put up with bad soap opera writing either.
  • BjjorickBjjorick Member Posts: 1,208
    from my tinkering with bg 1/2/tob, there's a string in the char file that says something like, "if pc is male, then set romace is active to 1, if pc is female, set romance is active to 0". Basically all you have to do is edit the file that says if pc is female to match whatever it's set to if pc is male, and you should have your mod.

    This shouldn't cause any problems other then her refering to you as a male (as you're just changing the triggers, not the voices/dialogs) but it will solve your problem. If it bothers you, just think that you're the 'man' in the relationship???
  • MisseMisse Member Posts: 16
    I used Shadowkeeper on my save prior to entering Beregost, and set my existing character to male, keeping the paperdoll, portrait, voice pack etc of my previously female character. This seems to have worked, and there are thankfully few instances of the game referring to my gender so far. Even Neera, despite having gotten to the point of the first kiss now, hasn't mentioned it yet.

    If I'm feeling particularly adventurous I might load up one of the saves I have just prior to the love-talk rests, to see if she will accept my advances as all female (which would be the case if the script just check once in the beginning), or a gender-check is hardcoded into every lovetalk.

    I've enjoyed the Neeramance so far, but I'm certainly looking forward to the rumored F/F romance DLC, especially if it actually acknowledges being F/F in addition to just being open to female charnames. In the meantime, looking forward to the conclusion of this one.
  • JalilyJalily Member Posts: 4,681
    edited December 2012
    A gender check is made for every lovetalk. And, um,
    if you got the first kiss, that's all there is. Neera only has three romance talks. Looks like you didn't pick the "wrong" options, which cause her to refer to your gender. :)
  • MisseMisse Member Posts: 16
    Ah, fortunate I happened to find a path through entirely devoid of gender references all by chance =)

    I had thought there would be something when I got to BG City or another significant plot event. Shame this was it.

    If the kiss was the last, I suppose I should Shadowkeep my gender back so the rest of the game doesn't get it wrong all the time =P
  • xeoneexxeoneex Member Posts: 16
    edited March 2013
    you could always buy the belt that swaps gender...

    If I recall it's at either the Friendly Arm inn, Beregost, or Nashkel
  • bgplayabgplaya Member Posts: 129
    Well, on my female character, she at least had the first 'romance' talk with me, but being an evil mage, I just told her off/acted really rude.

    Then, the assassin in the Nashkel inn killed her. Me and Xzar came to the conclusion that she wasn't worth the gold to revive, and that her robe looked better on me anyway. :P
  • JalilyJalily Member Posts: 4,681
    bgplaya said:

    Well, on my female character, she at least had the first 'romance' talk with me

    Are you sure? Her first romance talk is "I've been thinking about you," not the High Forest backstory.
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  • SCARY_WIZARDSCARY_WIZARD Member Posts: 1,438
    edited March 2013
    I only glanced through this thread, but here you go: http://www.shsforums.net/forum/636-neera-expansion/ . F/F options for Neera, and M/M options for Rasaad! And some lovetalk timer tweaks.
    After I'm done romancing Neera a second time, I'll go bug Rasaad in the next savegame.
  • bgplayabgplaya Member Posts: 129
    Jalily said:

    bgplaya said:

    Well, on my female character, she at least had the first 'romance' talk with me

    Are you sure? Her first romance talk is "I've been thinking about you," not the High Forest backstory.
    Ahh, my mistake. Yeah, it was only the High Forest one.
  • IecerintIecerint Member Posts: 431
    I think Amber from BG2 has a F/F path?
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