Which NPCS have you never used for long?
Xiviriel
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Im curious to see if there are NPCs that are generally ignored by everyone. Here are the ones I didnt use much.
Skie: She enters the game too late, requires Eldoth to be with her, and her portrait looks like she just got off of the starship enterprise.
Eldoth: If I want a bard I usually just use my pc, sometimes I take Garrick for a bit but that is just because I feel like he fits in with a new naive party of adventurers just starting their journy.
Faldorn: Didnt know she existed for a long time. I dont see why anyone would have a use for her since Jahera is a better alternative and that portrait is scary.
Shar-Teel: I could never get over her low constitution so never used her.
Yeslick: I never took him because I though if I did I needed to leave someone in the mine to drown.
Once NPC project becomes compatible with BGEE I will probably try these folks out. It would be interesting to have all of them in a party together, kill all the birds with one stone.
Skie: She enters the game too late, requires Eldoth to be with her, and her portrait looks like she just got off of the starship enterprise.
Eldoth: If I want a bard I usually just use my pc, sometimes I take Garrick for a bit but that is just because I feel like he fits in with a new naive party of adventurers just starting their journy.
Faldorn: Didnt know she existed for a long time. I dont see why anyone would have a use for her since Jahera is a better alternative and that portrait is scary.
Shar-Teel: I could never get over her low constitution so never used her.
Yeslick: I never took him because I though if I did I needed to leave someone in the mine to drown.
Once NPC project becomes compatible with BGEE I will probably try these folks out. It would be interesting to have all of them in a party together, kill all the birds with one stone.
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Shar-Teel: Never used her. I don't visit that area often.
Safana: Never used her. Same thing.
Dynaheir&Minsc: Don't like them.
Khalid&Jaheira: Don't like them.
Xzar&Montaron: Sort of like Montaron but he's a bit of a psycho.
Ajantis: Paladins? Yuck.
Edwin: I don't find him that funny.
Garrick: Not exactly a must-have.
Tiax: What a basket-case.
So....basically most of them. I use all of the remaining ones.
I would also add Xzar an Khalid to the list. I never use them.
I disagree with Shar-teel on the list. But you should dual class her to a thief, which makes her a very useful addition to an evil party.
Kagain, Coran, Alora , Yeslick, Faldorn, Xan , Safana, Xzar and Montaron I have used for a single quest.
The others I use for long, depending on the party.
Minsc
Jaheria
Khalid
Imoen
Neera
I beat the game with all the TOTSC content with them they worked out quite well
Xan is one of my favorite npcs of all time! I love his sword, his colors and his pestimistic attitude. Also the way he shuts Ajantis up is pretty funny.
Good idea about duel classing shar-teal, I never even thought of that.
NPCs I've never used:
Eldoth - I've wanted to try him, but the couple games I started intending to pick him up, I didn't stick with long enough.
Skie - never tried Eldoth
Alora - Suffers from coming to late + an overabundance of better theives.
Tiax - while I like taix's character, sometimes I'll grab him for a bit just to "poke" him, cleric/theif's just feel kinda "crippled," especially when you get him that late in the game.
Quayle - Late and probably the weakest NPC in the game
Faldorn - While there is some appeal to a straight druid, she's got meh stats and comes late
Safana - Overshadowed by Imoen
NPCs I use regularly:
Imoen: she's your "sister," and really solid build all around
Coran: Uber archer/thief, one of the few NPCs of comparable power to the PC, I have a though time NOT taking him, lol. And he comes at the perfect time for dualing Imoen to a mage at lvl 4/5
Minsc: and Boo! he was the heavy hitter till Dorn came along
Kagain: Hard to argue with early pickup and 20 constitution and easy to get Dex Gaunlets fix his one minor flaw.
Garrik: I have a tough time playing without a bard to ID stuff, I just wish he was a bit better...
Viconia/Branwen: heal bots, basically equal comes down to who I didn't take last time
NPCs I've used once or twice, but don't take often for whatever reason
Khalid/Jaheria: Used to take them all the time when BG first came out, but I'm kinda burned out on them.
Kivan: Minsc is a better frontliner, Coran is a better archer, and I know early BG so well, I don't need the extra body to fill in till I grab one of the other two (might change when SCS gets updated though)
Dynhair: Subpar mage and kinda annoying on top of it.
Ajantis: solid fighter, if I need someone to help Minsc its either him or the PC
Yeslick: Good guy, but I'm usually already settled into my party by this point.
Monteron/Xzar: overshadowed by Coran/Shar-teel, and Edwin, but sometimes I grab them for a bit, but they rarely make it past Nashkel if that far.
Edwin/Shar-teel: both pretty powerful (shar-teel used to be the only NPC capable of grandmastery), but they feel truly evil in a way that Kagain and Viconia don't.
Xan: Love his character and the moonblade is just so cool, but I struggle to make effective use out of him.
Man there are a lot of NPCs.
Oh and my impressions of the new NPCs
Neera, I like her, decent stats, amusing personality. Two things that kinda bug me 1) Why do they insist on giving Mages melee weapons?!?! 2) Her personal quest, at least Adoy's Enclave, was a disappointment. It takes all of 5 minutes to wade through the goblins, the ranger feels very tacked on with no satisfactory conclusion to finding/burying his wife (would have been a great place to put a neat ranger specific piece of equipment), and then after beating the red wizards (silence made the fight almost laughably easy) all I got was a "plain" belt, that was a let down.
Dorn: Really liking him so far, the revenge arc is neat and well integrated into existing areas, I'm really looking forward to taking on Semmon its built up nicely. Neera's quest sould have been more like this, but from the opposite, being hunted instead of doing the hunting, side. And to top it off he is actually well built with usefully chosen proficiencies and solid boarding on overpowered stats.
Rasaad: Interesting backstory, so so voicing, what sounds like a good quest (although I haven't gotten to it yet) but completely let down by being a crappy stat low lvl monk. He either should have been a cleric (need a good aligned one besides Yeslick) or else had an actually useful item/special ability and slightly better stats.
Khalid can be a very versatile guy, give him some points in bow, make him mastery in long swords, well you got yourself a tank and a archer in one. His THACO levels well as well and you just bulk him up with a strength belt.
Xan is the original no nonsense mage, no tack on characters so you can take them, nor an annoying quest to wade through gnolls to murder stuff.
As for Eldoth and Skie - Skie is available very late and there are better NPCs to use. Also, Eldoth's DEX is terrible, and listening to a douche mistreat his girlfriend is not my idea of a good time.
like some others, i just cant kick imoen. i realy like her bantering, and she IS your sister.
i hate khalid, but i like Jahira, so i let khalid die in battle.
my party: me(fighter), imoen, jahira, minsc and dynaheir, and neera.
im thinking about booting minsc and dynaheir for ajantis and maybe viconia.
Must say i like neera a lot better then dynaheir.
I tried Dynaheir but she sucked too bad. With Invokers only having 1 opposition school now, she will be a lot better for sure. I will have to pick her up again some time now.
Tiax suffers from using a very difficult class (you *can* make Cleric/Thieves awesome, but it's not easy) and having more or less shitty stats besides. His Constitution is great, but 16 Dexterity? Every other thief in this game full of thieves has a better Dex. 13 Wisdom? Good enough but no bonuses. Sad. Damn guy *requires* Gauntlets of Ogre Power, then he's pretty beast. I completely agree with this statement. I will attempt to rebuke the fail: Faldorn should not be compared to Jaheira AT ALL, she is no fighter. Faldorn gets the most divine spells out of any NPC in the game with a 16 Wisdom and pure class Druid. Druids get to Level 10. Yeah, and on top of the 16 Wisdom, AND Innate Ability Summon Dread Wolf, that's lots of spells. Haha trust me, with high Strength and Dexterity low Constitution is far, far from the end of the world. Kivan and Shar-Teel kick ass. You got Xan problems I feel bad for you son, I got 99 problems but not knowing how to use Xan properly ain't one. Minsc fanboy/girlism ... the bane of my existence.
Let's see... for me, it's:
Alora, Tiax, Quayle, Skie, Eldoth, and Yeslick because they all join way too late. I usually have my party decided by the time they come along.
Let's see, I also never cared for Montaron much. I don't use backstabs very much, and that's really what fighter/theives are best at. Imoen is almost always in my party, so I don't need thieving abilities either.
Something unfortunate always ends up happening to Xan in the mines, like when I just went there yesterday, Mullahey used rigid thinking, and my main character wandered off and critted the poor guy.
I never use Edwin, because I have a thing against conjurers (don't ask). Yes, I know he's the best mage in the game, but that's not really all that important to me.
I can't stand Kivan. He's a stuck up elf who tells me to quit bothering him when I give him orders, and leaves the party for good if I want to re-arrange it. Well you can go **** yourself too, buddy.
Edit: Ajantis! Never used him. He's just too easy to make fun of, especially when he's about to attack you, and you question his paladinhood. Priceless.
I've played this game a lot.
I usually tolerate Jahiera even though she is neutral as she is one of the only healers early on. I prefer Yeslik over her as it's nice to have a Dwarf in the party and he also matches my alignment.
Minsc is pretty good, but you also have to take Dynaheir who isn't so good. They are entertaining to take along though. Minsc probably has the best comments in BG1. I suppose you could always get Dynaheir killed off if you want to take Minsc along with you.
Coran is probably my favorite NPC. I love his voice set. Hes also incredible useful as a ranged fighter and a thief. When designing a character this is probably what I'd want to make mine like, but since he already exists there is no need to recreate him.
Kivan is another NPC that I would make like Coran. I love to roleplay the Ranger/Archer/Stalker wandering the dangerous woods. Unlike Coran hes more of a solo/outcast type charater. Coran is more of the romancing/swashbuckling/charismatic type. Having both of them in your group as ranged bow fighters makes life a lot easier in BG1. The downside is again you don't need to make a character like this as a good one already exists and the voice set is better then what you can choose.
Khalid is a good tank, but you have to take Jahiera along with you if you want him in the group. He also does a lot of whining for a neutral good character which is a little annoying at times.
The new Monk (good aligned) NPC has a good voice set, but I can't justify taking him along as he is just to weak of a fighter compared to the others available.
Ajantis is a decent tank if you need one. I like Keldorn a lot better, but he is ok. I'd rather play the role of Paladin myself as ranger and fighter/thief are already taken by better NPCs that I like a lot.
Imoen is the best good aligned mage you can get if you dual class her. She has a high int and a high dexterity. I still think a fighter/mage dual class would be more useful than a thief/mage, but it does the job. She is usually my mage of choice.
I know playing with only good NPCs is very limiting, but that's how I like to play.
Yeslick - I don't remember him. Is it a dwarf cleric in Nashkel mines? Never used him.
Alora - Too late in game + she's a midget. Montaron FTW!
Faldorn - Never used her. Druids in BG are something! Cernd is the most hated NPC in BG2.
Skie - Never actually saw her in game :-) But she's a good Thief on the list.
Garrick - Don't like his portrait. Poor stats. He was once in my party, but died immediately.
Quayle - Don't even know who he is...
Safana - In my very very first playthrough in '99 couldn't find her... Imoen, Skie and Shar-Teel dualed to thief are way better. Some kids would prefer her, because of her vamp style or something like that...
Eldoth - He is a good guy, but comes only with Skie. And I coudn't get his quest done, so he leaved.
Tiax - Don't like him. His place is in a mental asylum :-)
Ajantis - is ok. The only paladin in the game. Paladins are funny.
Branwen - is ok. My only cleric in the game. I never liked Vicki in BG1. She's ugly...
Shar-Teel - She was the very first NPC I ever dualled (to thief) :-)) And if I'm not mistaken, she's the only fighter in the game with a 18+ score in STR. She is still a good performer even with 9 Con. When I was playing with an evil group in BGT, I used her as a thief.
I don't like Dynaheir and her look, but she's the only good profmage in the game. So, she's in.
BG2:
Don't like Cernd, Nalia, HaerDalles, Jan, Aerie.
Mazzy... I wish she was a human or an elf or half :-(((