Please, BeamDog, do not change the dlg state numbers with updates!
jastey
Member Posts: 2,671
From game version 2.3.67.3 to 2.5.17.0, I see the following changes in state numbering in bddosia.dlg and bdkhalid.dlg:
bddosia.dlg:
bdkhalid.dlg:
I can only assume that there are more. As much as I appreciate that new reply options / NPC reactions are added and the game is still actively being worked on - doing it this way that dlg states are inserted somewhere in the middle is not a good way to do it. To say it politely.
Not only that this generates unnecessary work for us modders to keep our mods compatible. There is also a great chance we don't even know about these changes. I hope we all agree that it is not realistic to expect that we search through all dialogues after a patch to see whether our mods still interject into the right dlg states. This is not feasible.
Especially since this is not necessary at all - you could have just added the states at the end of the file, leaving all others as they were.
Please do not change dialogues like this.
bddosia.dlg:
v2.3.67.3:
--All other states numbers are increased by 2.
BEGIN ~BDDOSIA~
//////////////////////////////////////////////////
// WARNING: this file contains non-trivial WEIGHTs
//////////////////////////////////////////////////
IF WEIGHT #1 /* Triggers after states #: 29 even though they appear after this state */
~ AreaCheck("bd4300")
~ THEN BEGIN 0 // from:
SAY #65666 /* ~Could I have a moment to describe the countless ecstasies to be found suffering in Ilmater's name...? No? Another time, then.~ */
IF ~~ THEN EXIT
END
IF WEIGHT #2 /* Triggers after states #: 29 even though they appear after this state */
~ AreaCheck("bd3000")
GlobalLT("bd_plot","global",395)
~ THEN BEGIN 1 // from:
SAY #48131 /* ~I'm sorry, I can't talk right now. There are many I must tend to.~ */
v2.5.17.0:
BEGIN ~BDDOSIA~
//////////////////////////////////////////////////
// WARNING: this file contains non-trivial WEIGHTs
//////////////////////////////////////////////////
IF WEIGHT #1 /* Triggers after states #: 31 even though they appear after this state */
~ AreaCheck("bd4300")
~ THEN BEGIN 0 // from:
SAY #65666 /* ~Could I have a moment to describe the countless ecstasies to be found suffering in Ilmater's name...? No? Another time, then.~ */
IF ~~ THEN GOTO 1
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN 1 // from: 0.0
SAY #65023 /* ~How can I help you, hero?~ */
IF ~~ THEN REPLY #65024 /* ~I have need of your healing services.~ */ GOTO 2
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN 2 // from: 1.0
SAY #65032 /* ~Of course. I'll assist however I can.~ */
IF ~~ THEN DO ~StartStore("bddosia",LastTalkedToBy(Myself))
~ EXIT
END
IF WEIGHT #2 /* Triggers after states #: 31 even though they appear after this state */
~ AreaCheck("bd3000")
GlobalLT("bd_plot","global",395)
~ THEN BEGIN 3 // from:
SAY #48131 /* ~I'm sorry, I can't talk right now. There are many I must tend to.~ */
--All other states numbers are increased by 2.
bdkhalid.dlg:
v2.3.67.3:
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN 111 // from:
SAY #64967 /* ~When you s-say "you," you mean us, yes?~ */
IF ~~ THEN EXTERN ~BDJAHEIR~ 92
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN 112 // from:
SAY #64972 /* ~Good. Th-that's good.~ */
IF ~~ THEN EXTERN ~BDJAHEIR~ 93
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN 113 // from:
SAY #64975 /* ~Where to find US. Farewell, <CHARNAME>.~ */
IF ~~ THEN EXIT
END
IF ~ OR(2)
AreaCheck("BD0120")
AreaCheck("BD0130")
Global("bd_joined","locals",0)
~ THEN BEGIN 114 // from:
SAY #66305 /* ~Well met, <CHARNAME>. How goes the crypt crawl?~ [BD66305] */
v2.5.17.0:
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN 111 // from:
SAY #39777 /* ~B-but who?~ [BD39777] */
IF ~~ THEN EXTERN ~BDIMOEN~ 127
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN 112 // from:
SAY #64967 /* ~When you s-say "you," you mean us, yes?~ */
IF ~~ THEN EXTERN ~BDJAHEIR~ 93
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN 113 // from:
SAY #64972 /* ~Good. Th-that's good.~ */
IF ~~ THEN EXTERN ~BDJAHEIR~ 94
END
IF ~~ THEN BEGIN 114 // from:
SAY #64975 /* ~Where to find US. Farewell, <CHARNAME>.~ */
IF ~~ THEN EXIT
END
IF ~ OR(2)
AreaCheck("BD0120")
AreaCheck("BD0130")
Global("bd_joined","locals",0)
~ THEN BEGIN 115 // from:
SAY #66305 /* ~Well met, <CHARNAME>. How goes the crypt crawl?~ [BD66305] */
All following state numbers are increased by 1.I can only assume that there are more. As much as I appreciate that new reply options / NPC reactions are added and the game is still actively being worked on - doing it this way that dlg states are inserted somewhere in the middle is not a good way to do it. To say it politely.
Not only that this generates unnecessary work for us modders to keep our mods compatible. There is also a great chance we don't even know about these changes. I hope we all agree that it is not realistic to expect that we search through all dialogues after a patch to see whether our mods still interject into the right dlg states. This is not feasible.
Especially since this is not necessary at all - you could have just added the states at the end of the file, leaving all others as they were.
Please do not change dialogues like this.
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I'll go through the file history and make a complete list of changes to the state order. And thanks for a reminder... that was awkward, to say the least.
Please also remember for the coming 2.6 patch!