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Holy symbols and Cloaks player handbook

ShadowMShadowM Member Posts: 573
Added all the player handbook holy symbols.
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Working on cloaks of all the Deities also.
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  • ShadowMShadowM Member Posts: 573
    Update picture to show working cloaks also.
  • TarotRedhandTarotRedhand Member Posts: 1,481
    edited December 2019
    If you want to do the Faerunian pantheon have a look at the CCC April 2011: Religious Items and Symbols. You might be able to adapt the holdable ones from there as well.
    TR
  • ShadowMShadowM Member Posts: 573
    If you want to do the Faerunian pantheon have a look at the CCC April 2011: Religious Items and Symbols. You might be able to adapt the holdable ones from there as well.
    TR

    Yeah I built mine off his. I did not like how the medallions did not have metal casing around them so added that. I also wanted add the casing so I can put circle runic symbols on them. I connected the ropes. I set up a layer system that easy to make a bunch easy. I might do some others. I also want to do some really detailed one that are model out like the unicorn and others.
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  • T0R0T0R0 Member Posts: 86
    edited December 2019
    Good stuff ShadowM.. IF I may, couple of suggestions..

    1. Colors are too bright,, looks cartoony. They need some photoshop grunging or texturing,
    2. The symbol on the cloak seems low. An alternate idea, how about making the clasp on the front the symbol (maybe a bit larger).
    3. Perhaps a little danglymesh on the cord .. (or reshape the cord a bit to make it seem like its dangling)

    Great stuff tho ! Keep em' comin..
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  • ShadowMShadowM Member Posts: 573
    Thank you for the feedback @TarotRedhand , sorry did not that in the previous comment.
    Thank you @T0R0 for the feedback also. These are all work in progress and I have my normal job so things are not going as fast as they would if I were off, like the runes have not been added either yet.
    On the suggestions.
    1. They look kinda bright up close, but If I darken them or smudge them then average distance make them hard to see. I think about some grunging.
    2. I debating on the height location, up higher look (by the shoulders actually look kinda dorky like superman cape. I like the idea of the clasp with the symbol (like both the clasp and on back) I look into there might be some limitations with the parts base item.
    3. The whole symbol model has danglymesh on it, so it does move about the same amount as the ones from CCC. You cannot see that in the picture. The reason I kept it not so tight is I was testing it with fingers hands version (which are out there and like Aribeth) so I have to go back look where the rope show up in there hands, but I more then likely tighten it up so it look like it has more weight.
  • TarotRedhandTarotRedhand Member Posts: 1,481
    A good source of free (for non-commercial use) gimp/PShop brushes (i.e. for runes) is Obsidian Dawn. Also a good research resource regarding cloaks is Lisa's First Stab at Fancy Schmancy Cloaks from 2003 (i.e. SoU).

    TR
  • GrymlordeGrymlorde Member Posts: 121
    @ShadowM , @T0R0 -- perhaps it's no much that the symbols are low but that they could be larger (height & width). If you look at historical heraldic cloaks, you'll find that the heraldry is centered but also larger.
  • ShadowMShadowM Member Posts: 573
    Grymlorde wrote: »
    @ShadowM , @T0R0 -- perhaps it's no much that the symbols are low but that they could be larger (height & width). If you look at historical heraldic cloaks, you'll find that the heraldry is centered but also larger.

    I did both.
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  • T0R0T0R0 Member Posts: 86
    That does look better !
  • ShadowMShadowM Member Posts: 573
    Ok first pass of cloaks are all done.
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  • GrymlordeGrymlorde Member Posts: 121
    @ShadowM - Looks good! Just out of curiosity, why did you choose that particular cloak model as opposed to the hooded or great cloaks?
  • ShadowMShadowM Member Posts: 573
    edited December 2019
    Grymlorde wrote: »
    @ShadowM - Looks good! Just out of curiosity, why did you choose that particular cloak model as opposed to the hooded or great cloaks?
    @Grymlorde
    Well my initial plan was to add them to almost every type of cloak, but if you look at them it comes down to compatibility with some of the cloaks already having colors assigned. I would have to have parts of the cloak share the same color as art on the cloak and limit variety in the cloak. If BD open cloaks to also accept tattoo 1 and 2 and hair and skin on the cloaks or add more layer options like cloth3, leather3, metal3 then that would open more options for color art combinations. I will look at more cloaks and see if I can add the symbols to them like hooded.
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  • CalgacusCalgacus Member Posts: 273
    @ShadowM Nice work, how are you making the cloaks? I made a bunch of cloaks a decade ago but I don't know if I can now as the version of everything has changed. I was trying to revive my old cloak project but the gimp plugin I use seems to crash when exporting to plt. I was trying to follow this tutorial http://www.neverwinternights.info/cc_addcloaktexture.htm which seems like it was probably how I did it back then.
  • ShadowMShadowM Member Posts: 573
    edited December 2019
    @calagus
    You may have old version that does not work anymore. I think I'm using symmetric plug-in and he still around working with blenders so he can be ask any questions about crashes. I'm not sure it been awhile ago when I installed it.
    Here the link
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    I was thinking about making a video for youtube on it, but it pretty easy now with gimp's grouping.
    I will come back with some images to help.
    1. Grab the base cloak file and save it out as you new base one (like cloak base basic) or something like that then add guide lines top mark off the top and sides of the image (basically a box where your texture going to go so you have uniformity with your cloaks designs (they all the same height on the cloak and width)
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    2. Grab your design image and cut it into layers for each cloak layer (if your image has three different colors then cut though into three separate layers.
    3. Create a group and move all the layers into that group and chain link them.
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    4. Grab the group folder and hold down control and drag it over to you base cloak file. Now you have all your layers in a group that you can resize and move together but still have control of each layer under that group. So you resize it and position it where you like inside your guide lines.
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    5. Now duplicate the group/layer. One is going to be integrated into the cloak image and the other going be use to re-cut out each layer.
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    6. Hide the cut out layer
    7. Change the opacity of the integrate layer to 50% and merge down into the cloak image.
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    8. Now highlight a cut out layer (for say cloth or leather etc..)
    9. Click layer / transparency / alpha to selection (this will outline the cut for the main cloak.
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    10. Hide the cut layer and click on the main cloak layer and cut out and then paste and you have your layer all set for putting into cloth, leather, metal
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    11. Repeat for each layer and then merge them down into each cloth, leather or metal layer.
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    12. Delete the leftover cut group/layers and then export out as your new cloak texture.
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  • ShadowMShadowM Member Posts: 573
    edited December 2019
    Delete
  • TarotRedhandTarotRedhand Member Posts: 1,481
    Suggestion - copy and paste that into a document, save/convert it to pdf and post it on the vault/steam.

    TR
  • CalgacusCalgacus Member Posts: 273
    @ShadowM Thanks, I will give it a try this weekend.
  • ShadowMShadowM Member Posts: 573
    edited December 2019
    Shrunk the holy symbols 10% and tighten the rope, not enough time to add the runes right now. Hurrying on getting banners next.
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    fancy border added
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  • ShadowMShadowM Member Posts: 573
    Ok holy symbols and cloaks uploaded to the vault.
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