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I'm currently trying out to see if the specialist mage saving throw bonuses actually work.
I'm casting hold person with a -1 to saving throw. As an enchanter I get additional -2. With the Greater Malison additional -4, equals a total of -7 to save vs. hold person cast from an enchanter with greater malison applied first.
EE Keeper tells me that Illasera have a saving throw vs spell of 6, meaning she has to roll a 5 to actually fail and get the full effect of a spell. With a -7 to saving throws she should get affected by the spell if she rolls 12 or less (60 % chanse to fail her saving throws). When does the actual saving throws bonuses/losses apply in the game?
I thought it applied *before* the actual number showed up in the text box. But then she would never be able to roll a number 16 (16+7 = 23) on a d20.
Please, enlighten me!