Icewind Dale EE - Questions about Reputation and Shop prices

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• Mistercurious Member Posts: 40

  November 2022

  I just googled it again - there ssems to be no possibility to raise reputation over 12 by doing quests during the game.
  
  So the price discounts mentioned in the manual seem to be kind of moot (if you no do not use an editor that is.)
  
  I wonder if there is a mod that adds more possibilities regarding reputation?

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• Ridcully Member Posts: 167

  November 2022

  Only way I know of to impact shop prices is via "Friend" to raise the CHR. Not played it for a while but from memory the character you cast friend on, also has to be in position 1.

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• Mathsorcerer Member Posts: 3,037

  November 2022

  IWD (both vanilla and EE) never really cared about reputation; it exists, and I think you can raise it in temples, but for the most part it is ignored...at least from what I recall. You can set up some scripts to mess with reputation easily enough.

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• Kylan271 Member Posts: 15

  January 2023

  You get Questt Rep increases, which affect shop prices from Mods like Laravals here.

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• Mistercurious Member Posts: 40

  February 2023

  @Kylan271: Thank you for pointing out that possibility. Where can I find such a mod?

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• sarevok57 Member Posts: 5,975

  February 2023

  there are 2 things that affect shop prices; CHA and reputation
  
  having 20 CHA ( which has the max benefit ) gives you a 25% discount while your REP will set the default price ( either making it more or less expensive, for example; 1 REP makes items 1000% more expensive, while 20 REP makes items 70% of their cost )
  
  and then each store has a mark buy/sell mark up and depreciation value on top of that as well
  
  the formula for CHA is as follows;
  
  1-15= 0% discount
  16 = 5% discount
  17 = 10% discount
  18 = 15% discount
  19 = 20% discount
  20-25 = 25% discount
  
  
  formula for Reputation: ( % of base price )
  1 = 1000
  2 = 1000
  3 = 200
  4 = 150
  5 = 140
  6 = 130
  7 = 120
  8 = 120
  9 = 110
  10-14 = 100
  15 = 95
  16 = 90
  17 = 85
  18 = 80
  19 = 75
  20 = 70
  
  now in the EEs they changed it for IWD where you can actually donate money to the temple to get your REP back up if it falls low, the only caveat is that you can increase back up to like 7 or 8 which is loltastic to be honest
  
  if you possess the modding tools to do so, you can change these parameters in the following files;
  
  REPMODST.2da affects the base price as above
  
  REPUTATI.2da affects how much you need to donate to increase your REP to the next point ( just make sure to put in "10" for the "money church" row for each point increase to be "1" in game, and "base church" row is how much money you need for the next point )
  
  CHRMODST.2da affects how much of a discount you get with said CHA score as above
  
  and if you are incredibly savy, you can look at the xxxx.STO files ( which are the stores in the game ) and see what their sell/buy mark up is and change it as you like ( you can also change things like if you can steal from them and how much of a stealing penalty you get as well and so on)

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• jmerry Member Posts: 3,829

  February 2023

  In the EE, there's also a flag "Ignore reputation" on stores; if you set it, that store uses 100% instead of whatever's in the REPMODST table. The stores in the Black Pits 2 adventure (included in BG2EE) have that flag set.
  At least, that flag works in BGEE/BG2EE. I don't know about IWDEE.

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• Mistercurious Member Posts: 40

  February 2023

  @sarevok57: Thank you for lining it all out.
  
  I am still wondering if there is mod that gives me REP increases for quests in IWDEE like the "Laravals" one mentioned above.
  
  I have never heard of such a mod as of yet.
  
  Whithout a means of getting REP higher throughout gameplay (like you can in the BG series) the whole tweaking would not make much sense I guess.

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• GraionDilach Member Posts: 581

  February 2023

  It's not Laraval, it's Lava's WeaselMods. Rediscovery of Kuldahar includes a few rep increase results. I'm not sure on the others, but there's nothing to lose if you install all his other IWDEE questmods as well.
  
  https://downloads.weaselmods.net/download/the-rediscovery-of-kuldahar/

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• Kylan271 Member Posts: 15

  June 2023

  Rep increases apart from the limited Church donations, only occur in Mods(as mentioned above)-which you definitely need if completing ToL where you have to kill people for Items. Unlike BG, you can't get rep in the game from quests. For some reason Reputation was ditched in IWD, geez.
  
  The noted bonus from this not mentioned, is that you can accumulate infinite money, by buying and selling for profit. As the buying price becomes lower than the selling price(ie Orrik & Oswald).

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• Mistercurious Member Posts: 40

  June 2023

  I got some REP increases from Artisan's house rules mod, one point after completing the Vale of Shadows, one further point after completing the Temple of the Forgotten God and I think two more after completing the Severed Hand.
  
  I will try and install Lava DelVortels mods on my next playthrough and see how many points I get from there.
  
  I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who has tried out these kods how many points you can get...
  
  As for buying and selling I think I will buy from Orrick / Oswald and sell stuff to Nym withe the highest REP possible to make some profits.

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• ineth Member Posts: 707

  June 2023

  Mistercurious wrote: »

  I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who has tried out these kods how many points you can get...

  A fair amount.
  I listed possible reputation rewards in the quest summary tables of my walkthroughs:
  

  • The Rediscovery of Kuldahar walkthrough
  • Below & Below Inn walkthrough
  • Snowytoes Hamlet walkthrough

  
  

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