The Ravager Fight

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• atcDave Member Posts: 2,638

  July 18

  I don’t think it’s that high? But he does take half damage, or less, from almost anything. And he regenerates very fast.
  
  Typically I find this a pretty satisfying exercise for an end game party just for a pure damage dealing perspective.

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• PixelRunner Member Posts: 120

  July 19 edited July 19

  im on legacy of bhaal.. and solo assassin. thing is, according to the fandom wiki, he doesnt have any resistance to magic damage, and spike trap is magic damage.

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• jmerry Member Posts: 4,107

  July 19

  The Ravager doesn't have any resistance to magic damage. Or luck, for that matter - Sendai has +4 luck so she takes minimal damage from all non-physical types when they roll dice. I nuked the Ravager down in one round once (not LoB) with a set of four simultaneous triple-ADHW chain contingencies from two mages and their simulacra. (Trigger condition: be hit. Which I set off myself with a fireball from an item, after I had lowered its magic resistance.)
  Damage resistances: 75% physical, 100% all elements and poison. Also 90% magic resistance.
  
  Your traps should do their full normal damage. But. You can't set those traps up in the arena to trigger at the start of the fight, and anywhere else you're likely to hit the Bone Blades instead and waste the trap. And then you run out of traps and the Ravager still has tons of hit points left, because you can only set seven.

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• PixelRunner Member Posts: 120

  July 19

  i managed to set 5 traps at the entrance to the arena, while he and the bone blades were busy with some summons, and then i lured just him into the spike traps, but still they do too little damage. like, max 70 per trap, and they should do 20d6. up until this fight, i think that for every spike trap, in the combat window there were 2 damage numbers, around 50 each or smth like that. this time, theres only 1 per trap.

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• jmerry Member Posts: 4,107

  July 19

  70 damage is precisely normal for 20d6. It's the average. A spike trap should deal that much damage, once, to one target.

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• PixelRunner Member Posts: 120

  July 19 edited July 19

  well something is off. im comparing to the fight with Abazigal in dragon form, who has 890 hp if im not mistaking. and he fell from 7 spike traps, which on average should deal about 490 damage, right? i think its really unlikely that i would get a 890 burst just by luck.

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• jmerry Member Posts: 4,107

  July 19

  It is literally impossible to deal 890 damage with seven spike traps; if you rolled the maximum on every die, that would be 840.
  
  Dragon form Abazigal has 200 HP, when not in LoB (unmodded). Which is effectively 181, since he's immortal and dies by script when he drops below 20. Where are you getting 890 from?

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• PixelRunner Member Posts: 120

  July 19

  maybe i didnt have the exact right number, but i know on LoB he should have 3 times the normal health plus 80, iirc.

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• jmerry Member Posts: 4,107

  July 20 edited July 20

  There are actually two different HP calculations for LoB. Normal non-party creatures get 3x+80, while summoned creatures get 2x+20 (according to the wiki). Since dragon form Abazigal comes in through a "Replace Self" effect in a spell, I wonder if he might be using the summoned creature version.
  
  Human form Abazigal has 290 HP and transforms when under half. So that's effectively 146 HP normally and 476 on LoB (half of 950 plus one).
  
  Dragon form Abazigal has 200 HP and dies at under 20. That's effectively 181 HP normally, and either 661 or 401 on LoB depending on which HP modifier is used. At 661, killing with seven spike traps and nothing else is theoretically possible but extremely unlikely; more than eight standard deviations above the mean. At 401, it's nearly certain; that's more than four standard deviations below the mean.

  Post edited by jmerry on July 20

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• PixelRunner Member Posts: 120

  July 20

  has anyone won this fight solo on LoB? at the moment i think its impossible (

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