What do you expect from new characters in BG2EE?
true_shinken
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I've been having a blast with BGEE but I can't help but wonder what we'll get for the next game. There are some things I expect about new characters:
1) A single classed thief. Could be an elven assassin. Coule be evil, as well.
2) A romanceable gnome or halfling. All don't the shorties get any love?
3) A fighter/mage.
I imagine we'll only be getting #1, but dreaming is free.
1) A single classed thief. Could be an elven assassin. Coule be evil, as well.
2) A romanceable gnome or halfling. All don't the shorties get any love?
3) A fighter/mage.
I imagine we'll only be getting #1, but dreaming is free.
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Also, I expect another dwarf npc. Horribly underrepresented in the series.
I've got a feeling this new NPC should be multi-class because we already have three new single-class NPCs. I expect something new from the Devs.
And in BG2, much more than in BG1, a party needs multi-classed characters.
BTW i consider Jan Jansen as evil :P so not really hard on aligment therefore ^^
In fact, there's only one multi-class mage-thief - Jan. And from his personal quest I consider him ... neutral;) at least, not evil.
Nalia and Imoen are mages, and they cannot be evil, they can't be backstabbers, their thief skills are below par, they don't get UAI HLA...
A new multi-class mage-thief would be not only a much needed thief, but also an additional mage. One more, different evil mage (from Edwin).
I'm not against a multi-class cleric-thief as my previous post said.
But a new multi-class fighter-thief in BG2 in my opinion is not so special as an assasin and we already have enough fighters. In particular, Valygar.
Multi mage-thief (or multi cleric-thief) > Assasin > multi fighter-thief.
And about dual-class - how this NPC will alter Nalia and Imoen?
Imoen does her thieving job well enough with some help form knock, potions of power/mastery and since she is our sister a good character for cannon with some decent barter. And if remember right she wont leave, even partys rep. goes below 2(i may be wrong) These make her a decent thief(and a good mage) for any party along with turnip-lover Jan.(i still think he is evul
Nalia on the other hand, i really dont think anyone actually used her for a long time (or at all) Her thieving abilities are below subpar, not powerfull as Imoen as a mage and she is quite annoying imo.
Both fail in backstabbing tough, even Jan with all his chatter is better since he got higher multiplier.
Still i think another mage/thief would be overkill. A pure assassin or something special that CHARNAME cannot be like a dualed ranger/druid-thief or even a decent bard dualed into a thief kit. Or a sorcerer/thief?
Also we have a wild mageling on her way in BG2!
What a single-class thief can do, multi-class thief can do too. And there're not many mages in BG2 available as an NPC (only Jan, Aerie, Edwin, Nalia, Imoen and now Neera) so another one would be appreciated.
Well, there're not many clerics either, so it's always a solution.
But the main thing, from my point of view, is to have a thief who can develop as a thief, and who simultaneously not takes the whole spot in the party. Taking into account we need some mage and (or) cleric, it's quite clear what class a new NPC should have.
TWO WORDS: WIZARD SLAYER!!!
I actually think they should add a wizard slayer to BG2EE with a grudge against Jon Irenicus for an NPC. Someone who's Lawful Neutral at that so it's more of a personal thing than it is an alignment deal. But I think it would be cool to have a Wizard Slayer who has been hunting him for a long time offer to help you, an also have banter where he reacts negatively with spell casters, including you if you are one in your party. (Nothing where he'd leave...but something where he admits to great suspicion of anyone who practices magic)
If you did the mage stronghold a mountain of great banter could be added too.
While your idea is quite good, we have already sh!tloads of frontline meatwalls and an assassin or a fighter/thief would make better sense as Thieves Guild is already after Irenicus.
Or some crazy elven avenger(not as a kit
Or a cleric/thief, a former student of Tiax who want to save him from prison
If there's going to be a female assassin and people are clamoring for other thieves, I think getting one kit in there which people wouldn't expect is cool.
If the Wizard Slayer was human you could dual class to a thief if the stats were fine for it. Which with Use Any Item could be monstrous since you've just overcome the only weakness to the kit.
Wizard Slayer/Thief sounds good as well. Tweak the WS kit to make him a viable mage killer, BG2 could use one very well. The thieves that are around are just no backstabbers, except for poor Yoshimo maybe.
What I believe we do not need is female (half-)elven assassin/swashbuckler/fighter-mage romance meat. There's already enough of that. Put interesting new characters in, and give them romances - please don't split it up between "(mechanically) interesting NPC" and "romance NPC who hasn't anything else going for them".
The good folks need a good claric, the baddys need a thief and scend mage mabay a sorccerer.
Honestly, I just want to be able to have a full-evil party in BG2, which you cannot do (even if you see Jan as evil =P), even in ToB at present. Dorn will make it possible in ToB, and will the addition of mystery woman we can even have one in SoA. I might even have to dump someone for Sarevok for once! (*coughkorgancough*)
I always hoped that it would have beeen a mod
but BG2:EE should have
2 more evil characters
Assasin sounds good
at least 1 more dwarf character
a romancable shorty (gnome , Dwarf , Halfling )
that can only be romanced by a shorty protaginist
Good and neutral parties at least have dual and multiclassed thieves to choose from. Evil has none.